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    I have noted before that throughout our history we have rotated between Democrat and Republican leadership and the progression down the slippery slope has not only not halted, has just escalated...

    I don't expect that is going to change regardless..
    It's going to change. I expect a big shift politically, it won't be business as usual.

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    The most important problem is spiritual. We need a revival to awaken the church and a move to get the message out that Jesus Save.
    I think you are right, without a relationship with God, the whole cart crumbles. People can still make poor decisions with a relationship with God, yet still, a relationship with God is an absolutely necessary beginning.

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    I know most will not agree, but we must stop looking to the two parties for answers. Yes, I know that the national Democratic Party is pro-abortion, and the national Republican Party is anti-abortion. So the logic goes we must vote for Republicans to end abortion. I am afraid that ship has sailed. Democrats will still support abortion on demand, Republicans will still be pro-life, with most having the issue decided by the States. It would take a Constitutional amendment to end abortion, something that will not happen.

    My point is that in the past this country had different political parties, and perhaps (alright, it is) time for change. If not new parties, take over the old ones. We must get career politicians out of office. The few who have done good also see the wisdom of term limits. It will be a hard fight because neither party will to do this, but change needs to happen. We need to return to the idea of government by and of the people, not special interests, business, labor, or politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottae316 View Post
    I know most will not agree, but we must stop looking to the two parties for answers. Yes, I know that the national Democratic Party is pro-abortion, and the national Republican Party is anti-abortion. So the logic goes we must vote for Republicans to end abortion. I am afraid that ship has sailed. Democrats will still support abortion on demand, Republicans will still be pro-life, with most having the issue decided by the States. It would take a Constitutional amendment to end abortion, something that will not happen.

    My point is that in the past this country had different political parties, and perhaps (alright, it is) time for change. If not new parties, take over the old ones. We must get career politicians out of office. The few who have done good also see the wisdom of term limits. It will be a hard fight because neither party will to do this, but change needs to happen. We need to return to the idea of government by and of the people, not special interests, business, labor, or politicians.
    > Yes, I know that the national Democratic Party is pro-abortion, and the national Republican Party is anti-abortion.

    No, the GOP is only interested in anti-abortion rhetoric. Were they to settle the issue they would lose a block of support, this is why they always play the "pretend to fail" game.

    They could have end-runned the supreme court long ago with simple legislation. They won't.

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    I will always vote for those who are anti abortion over those lib democrats any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    I will always vote for those who are anti abortion over those lib democrats any day.
    They count on that Nikos, that's why they'll never actually address abortion in a meaningful way.

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    They count on that Nikos, that's why they'll never actually address abortion in a meaningful way.
    I have found them to be very clear on the subject. As long as they are, I will vote for them. However, i will never vote for a pro-abortionist. Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    I have found them to be very clear on the subject. As long as they are, I will vote for them. However, i will never vote for a pro-abortionist. Never!
    Yes, they are always very clear when discussing the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee did him one better and actually named which amendments of the constitution he believes already ban abortion. Specifically, the fifth and fourteenth.
    Ron Paul while in congress put forth bills like that every year. He never got any support from the "pro-life" GOP.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-...533/cosponsors

    3 co-sponsors! Yes, 3 co-sponsors. That should tell you all you need to know about the GOP and their willingness to actually do anything. They talk a game while campaigning and promptly abandon the issue after gaining office.

    They need you to believe Nikos.

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