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    An Inconvenient Truth: Few Signs of Global Warming in Antarctica

    An Inconvenient Truth: Few Signs of Global Warming in Antarctica
    By Michael Bastasch Published on August 28, 2016
    https://stream.org/inconvenient-trut...ng-antarctica/

    Antarctica has confounded scientists, defying dire predictions that the South Pole would shrink and exacerbate sea level rise in the coming decades.

    Climate models predicted Antarctic sea ice would shrink as the world warmed, and that warming would boost snowfall over the southern continent. Neither of those predictions have panned out, and now scientists say “natural variability” is overwhelming human-induced warming.

    “Truth is, the science is complex, and that in most places and with most events, natural variability still plays a dominant role, and undoubtedly will continue to do so,” Chip Knappenberger, a climate scientist with the libertarian Cato Institute, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

    “This applies to goings-on in Antarctica as well as in Louisiana,” Knappenberger said, referring to the recent flooding in Louisiana activists have already blamed global warming for.

    What recent studies have shown is that natural variability in the climate system plays a big role in the South Pole, and there are few signs of man-made global warming in Antarctica...

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    ...Scientists have also been warning for years that, on net, Antarctica has been losing 147 gigatons of ice per year for the last decade or so, mostly from melting on the northern Antarctic Peninsula and its western ice sheet.

    There’s seems to be a news story every day about how things are looking worse in the Antarctic. The Washington Post, for example, recently warned a long crack in western Antarctica’ ice was growing. Sounds scary, but sort of obscures what’s happening overall with Antarctica.

    A 2015 study by NASA found Antarctica’s ice sheet increased in mass from 1992 to 2008. The study found ice gains in Eastern Antarctica more than offset ice loss from melting glaciers in the west....

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    ...Climate models predicted Antarctic sea ice would shrink as a result of global warming, but the opposite happened. Antarctic sea ice actually increased in the last two decades.

    Chinese scientists compared climate model sea ice predictions to actual observations from 1979 to 2005 and found “the main problem of the [climate] models is their inability to reproduce the observed slight increase of sea ice extent.”

    As it turns out, natural variability plays a big role here as well.

    “Sea ice extent is strongly influenced by the winds and these have increased from the south over the Ross Sea, contributing to a small increase in total Antarctic sea ice since the late 1970s,” Turner said. “The increase in ice seems to be within the bounds of natural variability.”

    Had Chinese researchers gone beyond 2005, they would have found more than just a slight increase. 2014 was the first year on record that Antarctic sea ice coverage rose above 7.72 million square miles. By Sept. 22, 2014, sea ice extent reached its highest level on record — 7.76 million square miles....
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    Global glacial mass :

    1980-2012 :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacie...:Bams_2013.jpg

    1957-2004 :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrea...ss_Balance.png

    The tendency throughout is downwards and accelerating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Global glacial mass :

    1980-2012 :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacie...:Bams_2013.jpg

    1957-2004 :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrea...ss_Balance.png

    The tendency throughout is downwards and accelerating.
    So there is apparently conflicting information.

    It is still attributable to “natural variability” as per the article.

    It all depends on the worldview/mindset of the scientists and the reporters who write/place the articles.

    Science is full of conflicting information, motivations and even (gasp) outright misrepresentation and corruption.

    I'm not expecting a lot of unadulterated truth from a bunch people who by and large are dominated by darkness (and government funding.)
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    That was global glacial mass which is different to antarctic glacial mass. I found a pro-climate-change site that admits per nov 2015 that the antarctic glacial mass had a small net increase up until 2008.

    But the global glacial mass is what matters the most since global warming is essentially a global phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    That was global glacial mass which is different to antarctic glacial mass. I found a pro-climate-change site that admits per nov 2015 that the antarctic glacial mass had a small net increase up until 2008.

    But the global glacial mass is what matters the most since global warming is essentially a global phenomenon.
    From the article...

    ...Had Chinese researchers gone beyond 2005, they would have found more than just a slight increase. 2014 was the first year on record that Antarctic sea ice coverage rose above 7.72 million square miles. By Sept. 22, 2014, sea ice extent reached its highest level on record — 7.76 million square miles....
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    Square miles and mass are not the same thing.

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