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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Going to a doctor and not snorting cocaine are two very different things as you well know
    Actually, not that far apart as both are pharmakeia (to administer drugs) which is witchcraft... which is done to alter one's body and/or consciousness apart from the Lord.

    Those that get caught up in medical science become total dependent upon it and will do EVERYTHING their doctor tells them to do without question as though they are under some sort of spell... and if you suggest that they should trust the Lord Jesus Christ alone for their well being, they call you crazy!

    Yeah, in the end we'll see who's crazy alright... and it won't be the guy standing on God's promises.


    believing she would be fully restored
    Major key right there... "would be" should have been replaced with "have been"

    Many do not receive healing because they put it off until the future without having received it as having already happened as the Bible teaches.

    This is a major, major key concerning walking by faith and not by sight.

    Hopefully nobody does salvation that way... "I sure hope I got saved... maybe someday I'll be saved, someday"

    No, salvation is received right now. It's mine NOW... receiving healing is just like that. The Kingdom of God must be taken by force. We must lay hold upon God's Promises and REFUSE to allow anyone to talk us out of it... and since I'm healed already, I have no need of making any doctors appointments regardless of what I feel in my Body which is the Temple of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

    I've done this, on numerous occasions. A few months back I had several episodes of sharp pains just above my hips on both sides. I hear that's supposed to be either a kidney problem or kidney stones.

    I slapped my body into shape with the promises of God each time it tried to come up... in the instant I felt it I did what Jesus said to do. And, it went away each time within seconds. But, I'm absolutely convinced I have already been healed and that that happened when I got born again and received the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ... where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty!

    Whatever it was, Jesus already bore this on His Body... and I know my legal rights before the Lord because He PAID FOR ME TO BE WELL... I refuse to have any sickness on me since Jesus already took it upon Himself.



    Well able, yes, but how He does it is His decision
    He has already paid for healing. It is fact, and He sent the Healer to live in His people... but, His people need to put God's Word first before the wisdom of men and what they see / feel.

    Jesus said the Kingdom of God works on seedtime and harvest and the enemy will choke God's Word out of you so it does not produce healing if you do not know how to prevent said choking. One major way of preventing this is to ABSOLUTELY REJECT anything that contradicts God's Promises.

    Psalms 84:11,12
    For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
    O LORD of hosts, blessed is the man that trusts in thee.


    Maybe we need to go find out what God's definition of "walk uprightly" is since His point of view is the only point of view that matters.

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    Major key right there... "would be" should have been replaced with "have been"
    Someone I know had a heart attack on Sunday as a result of blocked arteries. On Monday and Tuesday they put stents in and things are good again.

    As the arteries were previously blocked and God hadn't healed them yet letting it get to the point of the heart attack, should he have said no to the medical assistance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post

    Let God be true, and every doctor a liar!
    I guess we'd better throw the book of Luke away. That's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Going to a doctor and not snorting cocaine are two very different things as you well know. We can relate cocaine to other sins in the Bible that it is similar to. There is nothing that would preclude a person from going to the doctor and believing God to work through the doctor because that's where their faith is at the time. Are you suggesting that they just die if they don't have the faith to believe God alone?
    Maybe farmtruck is a Christian scientologist.

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    Farm truck,
    I've got a few questions if you don't mind.

    Do you go to doctors at all? What about kids? Who delivers the babies?
    Do you go to dentist? Is it ok to wear eye glasses?
    Any over the counter meds like cough syrup, aspirin, medicated soap?

    I know several people who grew up this way. Their mothers had them at home.

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    As the arteries were previously blocked and God hadn't healed them yet letting it get to the point of the heart attack, should he have said no to the medical assistance?
    Yes, God is to blame... He obviously dropped the ball on that.

    People can and will do what they want, but I for one will not seek health apart from the Lord because I have learned how to receive from the Lord. It's principle... He paid for me to have health, so it would be very rude to not accept what He paid for me to have.

    For many, lack of knowledge, lack of vision, and not understanding the Body of Christ prevents them from receiving... and this is not God's fault... it's man's fault.



    I guess we'd better throw the book of Luke away. That's a shame.
    Please show me in the Book of Luke where the Lord spoken thru Him and gave a call to action to trust in mankind's experimentational attempt to heal... it's not there. Sorry.



    Do you go to doctors at all? What about kids? Who delivers the babies?
    Do you go to dentist? Is it ok to wear eye glasses?
    Any over the counter meds like cough syrup, aspirin, medicated soap?
    No...

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    Ok thanks for responding.

    That explains a lot.

    I grew up around people who believed like that. In fact, even some family members from way back

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    Just like Jesus did during His time on earth... I eat good, I get plenty of rest, I exercise, but primarily I trust the indwelling of the Holy Spirit on the inside as my source of health.

    I've been doing this for many years, to the point it's laughable to even think that sickness / disease can even come on me. There is such a thing as divine rebellion which is what Jesus walked in. He lived a life of rebellion against darkness... at least until He willingly laid His life down for you and me.

    But then again, I'm a veteran of the satanic wars where I had no choice but to stand against devils trying to take me out physically and mentally so I have plenty of experience standing on God's Word concerning my health. After getting saved in the 80s, within 6 weeks I was in the hospital after stepping on a nail at work and my foot got infected resulting in a blood infection causing me to have temperature in excess of 100 degrees that almost killed me... old slewfoot tried to take me out.

    I knew nothing about healing back then as I was told by other Christians that "sometimes God heals, sometimes He does, and you never know what God's going to do" which of course is inspired by satan who tries to make God out to be a liar.

    His Word is more powerful than the devil and one must be willing to step out in faith and trust God to not be a liar and to watch over His Word to perform it as He said He would.

    Ultimately, I'd be willing to go home to be with the Lord rather than to compromise... and that it the deciding factor because satan knows I'm not moving and the Lord continues making His promises true in my life because I'm simply yielding to Him rather than yielding to the flesh.

    Where the Holy Spirit is at... healing is present. God never fails to show up with what Jesus paid for us to have and He'll even heal a sinner! Actually, it's easier to get a sinner (someone who doesn't know God and really doesn't care to get to know Him) healed than it is to get most Christians healed... cause most Christians would rather go to the doctor instead of stand on God's promises.

    Primarily because Christians are scared of spiritual confrontation in the physical realm where their body is concerned. You can have more fun with the Lord in the midst of a satanic attack on your body... the Lord always shows up, IF we let Him which requires standing on what God says and rejecting what man says.

    God is right... man is not.

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