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    Funny that you post from Romans 1 because that is precisely and exactly the chapter and verses that have come to mind for about a year when pondering the godless mind. What is so darn OBVIOUS is such an odious, contemptuous, thing to the godless. Shows how deep deception can go.

    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Romans 1:22, 28
    (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    (28) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


    This is an interesting translation...


    Romans 1:28 (28-32) Wuest

    And even as after putting God to the test for the purpose of approving Him should He meet their specifications, and finding that He did not, they disapproved of holding Him in their full and precise knowledge, God gave them up to a mind that would not meet the test for that which a mind was meant, to practice those things which were not becoming or fitting; being filled with every unrighteousness, pernicious evil, avarice, malice, full of envy, murder, wrangling, guile, malicious craftiness; secret slanderers, backbiters; hateful to God, insolent, haughty; swaggerers, inventors of evil things; disobedient to parents, stupid, faithless, without natural affection, merciless; such are those who, knowing the judgment of God that these who practice such things are worthy of death, not only habitually do the same things but also take pleasure in those who practice them.




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    Quote Originally Posted by CatchyUsername View Post
    Funny that you post from Romans 1 because that is precisely and exactly the chapter and verses that have come to mind for about a year when pondering the godless mind. What is so darn OBVIOUS is such an odious, contemptuous, thing to the godless. Shows how deep deception can go.


    John 3:18-21

    (18) ...He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
    (19) And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
    (20) For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
    (21) But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.



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    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Romans 1:22, 28
    (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    (28) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


    This is an interesting translation...


    Romans 1:28 (28-32) Wuest

    And even as after putting God to the test for the purpose of approving Him should He meet their specifications, and finding that He did not, they disapproved of holding Him in their full and precise knowledge, God gave them up to a mind that would not meet the test for that which a mind was meant, to practice those things which were not becoming or fitting; being filled with every unrighteousness, pernicious evil, avarice, malice, full of envy, murder, wrangling, guile, malicious craftiness; secret slanderers, backbiters; hateful to God, insolent, haughty; swaggerers, inventors of evil things; disobedient to parents, stupid, faithless, without natural affection, merciless; such are those who, knowing the judgment of God that these who practice such things are worthy of death, not only habitually do the same things but also take pleasure in those who practice them.
    Love the Wuest. I've had that translation since not too long after becoming a Christian, and a 3 hardback study series of his stuff. I have always really liked John 15:7 out of it:

    If you maintain a living communion with ME and My words are at home in you, I command you to ask, at once, something for yourself, whatever your heart desires, and it will become yours."

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Love the Wuest. I've had that translation since not too long after becoming a Christian, and a 3 hardback study series of his stuff. I have always really liked John 15:7 out of it:

    If you maintain a living communion with ME and My words are at home in you, I command you to ask, at once, something for yourself, whatever your heart desires, and it will become yours."
    Here's the full context...

    'I Command You To ask' – Wuest
    Wuest Word Studies – Kenneth S. Wuest
    https://hopefaithprayer.com/command-you-ask/
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    “If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.”* John 15:7
    *
    The words, “you shall ask,” are in the imperative mood, which makes them a command, and are to be taken in the sense of “I command you to ask.”
    *
    “Abide” implies fellowship with the Lord, “nothing between myself and my Savior,” and dependence upon Him. To those who thus abide, God issues the gracious command, “ask what you desire.”

    It is more than a command. It is a challenge. It is as if God said, “You meet the conditions, and I challenge you to ask, and then see how faithful and able I am to answer your prayer.”
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    The word “desire” implies a desire that proceeds, not from deliberate forethought, but from inclination. This is a perfectly safe command and promise, because when we live in close fellowship with Jesus, our desires and our inclinations are His desires and His inclinations.

    The word “ask” is in the middle voice which speaks of the subject of the verb acting in its own interest. Therefore we translate, “ask for yourselves.” But as we live in intimate fellowship with Jesus, those things which we ask for ourselves, we ask, not for the purpose of gratifying a selfish desire, but for the purpose of glorifying Him. Prayers of that kind are answered.
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    The word “done” is not from the Greek word which means to do something in the sense of making something. That would imply taking something in existence and fashioning it to suit our needs. The word is from the Greek word meaning “to become, to come into existence.” God will if necessary bring into existence that for which we asked.

    The word “ask” is in the aorist tense which when used in a command means, “do at once what is commanded.” Thus as we are abiding in Jesus, we are commanded not to hesitate, but to ask at once.
    *
    The translation reads:
    *
    “If ye abide in Me, and my words abide in you, I command you to ask at once and for yourselves whatever ye desire, and it shall be yours.”
    *
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    The Scripture goes on further to say in verse eight, “In this my Father is glorified, namely, that you are bearing much fruit.* So shall you become my disciples.”
    *
    “Whether we like it or not, asking is the rule of the kingdom” Charles Spurgeon
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    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    The book set at that link is the one I have. I just don't have the hardback translation that is showed there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Here's the full context...

    'I Command You To ask' – Wuest
    Wuest Word Studies – Kenneth S. Wuest
    https://hopefaithprayer.com/command-you-ask/
    *
    “If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.”* John 15:7
    *
    The words, “you shall ask,” are in the imperative mood, which makes them a command, and are to be taken in the sense of “I command you to ask.”
    *
    “Abide” implies fellowship with the Lord, “nothing between myself and my Savior,” and dependence upon Him. To those who thus abide, God issues the gracious command, “ask what you desire.”

    It is more than a command. It is a challenge. It is as if God said, “You meet the conditions, and I challenge you to ask, and then see how faithful and able I am to answer your prayer.”
    *
    The word “desire” implies a desire that proceeds, not from deliberate forethought, but from inclination. This is a perfectly safe command and promise, because when we live in close fellowship with Jesus, our desires and our inclinations are His desires and His inclinations.

    The word “ask” is in the middle voice which speaks of the subject of the verb acting in its own interest. Therefore we translate, “ask for yourselves.” But as we live in intimate fellowship with Jesus, those things which we ask for ourselves, we ask, not for the purpose of gratifying a selfish desire, but for the purpose of glorifying Him. Prayers of that kind are answered.
    *
    The word “done” is not from the Greek word which means to do something in the sense of making something. That would imply taking something in existence and fashioning it to suit our needs. The word is from the Greek word meaning “to become, to come into existence.” God will if necessary bring into existence that for which we asked.

    The word “ask” is in the aorist tense which when used in a command means, “do at once what is commanded.” Thus as we are abiding in Jesus, we are commanded not to hesitate, but to ask at once.
    *
    The translation reads:
    *
    “If ye abide in Me, and my words abide in you, I command you to ask at once and for yourselves whatever ye desire, and it shall be yours.”
    *
    *
    The Scripture goes on further to say in verse eight, “In this my Father is glorified, namely, that you are bearing much fruit.* So shall you become my disciples.”
    *
    “Whether we like it or not, asking is the rule of the kingdom” Charles Spurgeon
    *
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    That part in red is not the Wuest translation though. So I don't quite get it that's supposed to be from his translation. It's what I originally posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    That part in red is not the Wuest translation though. So I don't quite get it that's supposed to be from his translation. It's what I originally posted.
    You're right.

    I'm not sure which book it's from.

    It's not in Word Studies (not in my e-version) and it's not in Golden Nuggets.

    But this is the wording from the actual translation...

    If you maintain a living communion with me and my words are at home in you, I command you to ask, at once, something for yourself, whatever your heart desires, and it will become yours.




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    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    You're right.

    I'm not sure which book it's from.

    It's not in Word Studies (not in my e-version) and it's not in Golden Nuggets.

    But this is the wording from the actual translation...

    If you maintain a living communion with me and my words are at home in you, I command you to ask, at once, something for yourself, whatever your heart desires, and it will become yours.
    Right. What I originally posted.

    Where do you get all these ebooks you post from? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Right. What I originally posted.

    Where do you get all these ebooks you post from? :)
    There was a site that no longer exists that had alot of books and mini-books.

    Don't remember the name of the site.

    It shut down.

    I downloaded quite a few though.


    The Wuest I bought through e-Sword.




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    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    There was a site that no longer exists that had alot of books and mini-books.

    Don't remember the name of the site.

    It shut down.

    I downloaded quite a few though.
    Seems I remember a site like that now that you mention it. You may have even given me the link one time. Create a shared folder on dropbox for us and copy and paste them all in there and I'll download them then you can delete it.

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