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    Miracle in Chicago? Pilgrims flock to see Orthodox icon weeping drops of oil

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    The icon said to be exuding oil.

    Thousands of Orthodox Christians are flocking to a church in southwest Chicago to witness what they believe is a miracle.

    According to the Chicago Tribune, tiny drops of sweet-smelling oil have been trickling down an icon of John the Baptist at Assumption Greek Orthodox Church in Homer Glen. The parishioners believe the droplets have healing properties.

    Parish priest Rev Sotirios Dimitriou – known as Father Sam – said: "The first thing out of my mouth was 'What do I do?' You don't expect anything like this. It's breathtaking. It's so powerful to see such an act of God before your eyes."

    The auxiliary bishop of the diocese told the Tribune it would not comment on whether the phenomenon was genuinely miraculous, saying "We let the faithful believe it if they wish." Bishop Demetrios added: "If it brings you closer to God that's wonderful. If it doesn't, it doesn't."

    The oil exudes from the icon's halo, wings, hands and beard and is collected in a reservoir of cotton at its base. Dimitriou saturates cotton balls with the substance and hands them out to his parishioners. He has had several reports of divine healing from those who have touched it. One man said a blocked artery had cleared, while another claimed to be cancer free. Dimitriou himself, who had experienced blackouts because of a nerve condition, said he had not suffered since the oil began to flow and had stopped taking his medication.
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    The Tribune quotes James Skedros, dean of Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology, who said that similar episodes have taken place across the US. While unlike the Roman Catholic Church the Orthodox Church has no formal process for authenticating them, they are regarded as significant for believers. He said Orthodox Christians believe matter can be a conveyor of sanctity.

    "We have a very different understanding of matter as a vehicle of holiness," Skedros said. "We put [icons] on walls, burn candles in front of them, light incense in front of them because they're images of what they represent — the holy person or image of Christ or the saint."

    Meanwhile the church itself is struggling with the number of visitors it is receiving because of the phenomenon. A statement from the diocese said: "We are blessed to have this occurring at our parish in Homer Glen, Illinois.

    "We ask for patience and understanding when wanting to visit this icon or request additional information as this is a small community parish that is trying to work out how best to share this blessing with now a much enlarged audience."

    http://www.christiantoday.com/articl....oil/85042.htm
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    Any thoughts on this? Genuine as in its happening on its own and not a person planting the oil? If genuine, is it demonic...does satan have the power to manifest real substances?

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    I don't know, does the priest put oil on or into the icon at night ? Or does he not ? Same criticism as with various Charismatic phenomena, "angelic feathers" from a well known pillowmaker would be a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    is it demonic...does satan have the power to manifest real substances?

    No he can't do that...he is bound in the pit

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    I thought demons only inhabited human bodies? Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    ...does satan have the power to manifest real substances?
    Anyone? Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    Anyone? Any thoughts?

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    What do you think?
    I asked you first.

    I was thinking about it and can't really think of any scripture where satan manifested any real substances. He lies, he tempts, he can be visible, etc, but nothing is coming to mind about him bringing or leaving something behind in the physical.

    Tho what do you do with this verse from Job? Did he 'bring' the boils?

    Job 2:7So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

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    The Egyptian magicians created a lot of physical phenomena.

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