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Thread: Oral Roberts University to Track Students' Fitness Through Fitbits

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Some fitness trackers vulnerable to monitoring, U of T study finds
    Research raises questions about user privacy and possible falsified data
    By Dave Seglins, Chelsea Gomez, CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2016 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Feb 02, 2016 8:34 AM ET
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/fi...sers-1.3428817
    I'm not much into end-times stuff, (mark of the beast, one world gov,etc) but this would concern me greatly from a privacy standpoint..

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    I think I would pass them by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    "The Fitbits will track students' activity wherever they are — on campus or anywhere else in the world — and send the data, which includes details on exercise, food, sleep, and body weight, into Oral Roberts' learning management system.

    It's unclear how much physical activity the university requires of students. The university did not immediately respond to a request for comment from NBC News..."


    So how did this work for you guys who went there...were you judged on daily or weekly activities? Can you give examples of what was expected of you?
    we were required to have 40 aerobic points a week. we ran 2 field tests a semester mile and a half for guys a mile and a quarter for the women. if u were a freshman n the 2nd semester u also ran a 3 mile field test. ur percentage of body fat had to stay within a certain range and if it was above that range then they would put u into a program 2 reduce it. u took 2 semesters of physical fitness classes including diet, physiology, cpr, the basics of aerobics, 1st aid, and other stuff. back when i was there u reported ur physical activities on a computer card each week. i ran 5 to 6 miles every other day and lifted weights as well as martial arts. on friday nites i went dancing (yes it was not allowed) and counted it as rhythmic aerobics. what was funny about this was i graduated n dec of 1981 and went 2 bootcamp at paris island, s.c. i came back to graduate in may at oru and the physical fitness dept demanded i have my percentage of body fat measured. they said i was over my range and refused to let me graduate. think about that i was fresh out of marine corp bootcamp and they claimed i was over weight. i ended up going to the head of the registrars office to reverse their decision.... the P.E. guys were never that bright....

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    How did they measure that ? Caliper ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    How did they measure that ? Caliper ?
    close... they measure different parts of the body with a instrument like a caliper..... either that or they dunk u n a tub of water....

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    Tub of water is probably a bad idea, people's water content varies irrespective of fat percentage and will skew the number. The Tanita scales etc are similar. People get like 2% out of those scales if they have the "talent" for it. So measurements like that could actually exclude someone who is well within the specs. How fast did you have to run a mile and a half to qualify ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    we were required to have 40 aerobic points a week. we ran 2 field tests a semester mile and a half for guys a mile and a quarter for the women. if u were a freshman n the 2nd semester u also ran a 3 mile field test. ur percentage of body fat had to stay within a certain range and if it was above that range then they would put u into a program 2 reduce it. u took 2 semesters of physical fitness classes including diet, physiology, cpr, the basics of aerobics, 1st aid, and other stuff. back when i was there u reported ur physical activities on a computer card each week. i ran 5 to 6 miles every other day and lifted weights as well as martial arts. on friday nites i went dancing (yes it was not allowed) and counted it as rhythmic aerobics. what was funny about this was i graduated n dec of 1981 and went 2 bootcamp at paris island, s.c. i came back to graduate in may at oru and the physical fitness dept demanded i have my percentage of body fat measured. they said i was over my range and refused to let me graduate. think about that i was fresh out of marine corp bootcamp and they claimed i was over weight. i ended up going to the head of the registrars office to reverse their decision.... the P.E. guys were never that bright....
    I think Richard changed a lot of that by the time I got there in 1993..it wasn't so picayune-ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I just don't think they have any business requiring students to do that. That would annoy me greatly, so much that I might not go there if I was thinking about it.
    it was all a part of Oral's "Whole man" directive/vision..mind, body, and spirit..how could one be effective in ministering the Gospel if you are unhealthy and unfit? It was what it was an it is what it is it might have been unreasonable to do a lot of what Oral required (especially back when Wheeze was there), but that was the belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    it was all a part of Oral's "Whole man" directive/vision..mind, body, and spirit..how could one be effective in ministering the Gospel if you are unhealthy and unfit? It was what it was an it is what it is it might have been unreasonable to do a lot of what Oral required (especially back when Wheeze was there), but that was the belief.
    Reminds me of a verse that says that bodily training is profitable for little, training in godliness is profitable for much. That was to Timothy who was Greek and the Greeks were very into fitness and appearances just like many are today. I would of course qualify and if I had been in charge I would of course raise the bar to what I could barely manage myself. Who would want to be less fit than me ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Tub of water is probably a bad idea, people's water content varies irrespective of fat percentage and will skew the number. The Tanita scales etc are similar. People get like 2% out of those scales if they have the "talent" for it. So measurements like that could actually exclude someone who is well within the specs. How fast did you have to run a mile and a half to qualify ?
    when i was there the guys had to run 1 mile and a half under 12 minutes and the girls under 14 minutes..... i usually ran it between 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 minutes.... the three mile of men was 24 to 26 minutes.... the women a little longer...i ran the three miler around 21 to 23 minutes.....

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