^^^ That statement is serious deception
^^^ That statement is serious deception
Romans828 (04-25-2023)
Typical Baptist doctrine.Originally Posted by Cardinal TT
Welp, I have always taught that whatever parents do in moderation the children will do to an extreme. Here, the dad evidently failed to teach about the wrath of God. Romans 11:22 is needed.
When your praise match your prayers, the answer will come.
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Stanely uses John 10:28 to show that salvation can never be lost.
But according to the previous verse (10:27), Jesus knows those who follow Him.
They "never perish" and "no one can snatch them out of My hand (10:28) is promised as conditional, or a continual following the Lord Jesus throughout one's life.
But the one who preserves' to the end will be saved (Matt 24:13).
Preserves' means to persist or continue in something despite difficulty, obstacles, or discouragement. Jesus is implying to follow Him continual steadfastly without giving in (throwing in the towel) not giving up.
Eternal life is a promise for Christians who hold on to the gospel truth they heard from the beginning; to remain in Christ and the Father.
As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father (1 John 2:24).
Therefore, it would be wise to know that a once saved person can lose his salvation, yet can be restored again to faith in Christ Jesus.
My brethren, if one among you strays from the truth, and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins (James 5:19-20).
OSAS is a serious false teaching. How many people will be in hell because they thought they were on their way to heaven even while living in the midst of a sinful unrepentant lifestyle. After all, many pastors preach, "Don't worry, you can't ever lose your salvation".
Of coarse, they disregard Scriptures such as:
"by which also you are saved if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain (1 Corinthians 15:2).
"yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach if you indeed continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister (Colossians 1:22-23).
Lastly, lets not forget you rarely hear the OSAS preachers mention the importance of walking in holiness and obedience.
"pursue peace with all men, as well as holiness, without which no one will see the Lord Hebrews 12:14).
Holiness is not only striving not to give into sinful temptations, but being set apart (sanctification) as a vessel of honor for God to use.
And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation (Hebrews 5:9).
He is the source of salvation for all, but only those who obey Him are saved. The obedience which God requires is faith in His Word. But it is also true that saving faith is the kind that results in obedience. It is impossible to believe, in the NT sense, without obeying.
If you love me, you will keep My commandments (John 14:15).
I posted my thoughts here today because I believe Chrales Stanely was a false teacher in regards to OSAS. So as with Dr. Stanely, we too will stand before the "judgment seat of Christ" and give an account to Him (2 Corinthians 5:10).
If you put God First, you have Him at Last.
I think typical Baptist doctrine is "if you stop believing in Christ for salvation, you never really believed in the first place."
That's their common excuse for their false teaching OSAS that a person is not able to lose their salvation. In other words, if a Baptist serves in the Baptist church for 20 years and then backslides, their ace in the hole is "they were never saved to begin with". Anything to protect their false teaching, "OSAS" pet doctrine.
If you put God First, you have Him at Last.
Cardinal TT (04-26-2023), fuego (04-26-2023)
A question here. I call OSAS 'Univeralism for the elect.' Meaning if you are a part of the elect you can't lose your salvation. In other words universalism, but for a select group. My own term I came up with. Now any preacher today that seems to preach any kind of universalism, inclusion, etc, say like Carlton Pearson, we quickly label them a heretic. But with OSAS, it's accepted that some Christiansbelieve that, even our favorite Christian debaters debate them publicly, but still call them 'my very good friend', etc. So why the double standard?
Yep.
Believers in eternal security differ from Universalists in that they, like Arminians, believe in the necessity of being born again and trusting in the blood sacrifice of Christ. Universalists play down the blood atonement and do not insist on a born again experience.
Valiant Woman (04-27-2023)
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