Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Another Covid Lie Exposed - Hospitalizations

  1. #1
    So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    5,963
    Thanked: 5301

    Another Covid Lie Exposed - Hospitalizations

    The short story is that about 1/2 of hospitalized "Covid patients" are actually in the hospital for something else and have mild or asymptomatic Covid symptoms. They are not in the hospital for Covid, they just happened to test positive.

    Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.
    COVID Hospitalization Numbers Can Be Misleading - The Atlantic

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to John For This Useful Post:

    FireBrand (09-14-2021)

  3. #2
    But we knew that. Well, most of us anyways.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to FireBrand For This Useful Post:

    Highly Favoured (09-15-2021)

  5. #3
    So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    5,963
    Thanked: 5301
    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    But we knew that. Well, most of us anyways.
    Yes, we do know. What I found noteworthy is that it was actually reported on in a main stream publication.

    I have to think that most people, irregardless of political opinion or vax status are growing weary of all the dishonesty.

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to John For This Useful Post:

    A.J. (09-14-2021), Romans828 (09-14-2021)

  7. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Yes, we do know. What I found noteworthy is that it was actually reported on in a main stream publication.

    I have to think that most people, irregardless of political opinion or vax status are growing weary of all the dishonesty.
    Not to mention the flu doesn't even exist any more.

  8. #5
    The short story is that about 1/2 of hospitalized "Covid patients" are actually in the hospital for something else and have mild or asymptomatic Covid symptoms. They are not in the hospital for Covid, they just happened to test positive.
    Please notice that the statement above is about pediatric patients.
    Worldwide there are only few kids serious ill with covid and need hospital care.
    Most kids with covid are in the hospital for other reasons.
    Nobody is disagreeing on this ,
    BUT
    can this numbers be valid for adults?

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to tschau For This Useful Post:

    njtom (09-15-2021)

  10. #6
    Not to mention the flu doesn't even exist any more.
    not a surprise
    what helps against covid is also helping against flu

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to tschau For This Useful Post:

    njtom (09-15-2021)

  12. #7
    So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    5,963
    Thanked: 5301
    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Please notice that the statement above is about pediatric patients.
    Worldwide there are only few kids serious ill with covid and need hospital care.
    Most kids with covid are in the hospital for other reasons.
    Nobody is disagreeing on this ,
    BUT
    can this numbers be valid for adults?
    Yes, they came to the same conclusion with VA patients (no children). It's in the article.

  13. #8
    You are correct. My ears have been perking since hearing the Lt. Governor of Maryland tell the radio hosts there were 8 children hospitalized with COVID. One of the host said, "wait a minute, we heard yesterday that there were over 200" The Lt. Governor, said, "well, 8 is what I was told." Since then, I've been CAREFULLY reading headlines and stories. I'm posting this from the Baltimore Sun, I bolded what stood out to me:
    Maryland hospital beds for kids are filling up with COVID and other virus cases. When school starts, doctors say it could get worse.
    By HALLIE MILLER
    BALTIMORE SUN |
    AUG 18, 2021 AT 3:07 PM

    Maryland hospital beds designated for children are filling up, with COVID-19 and other respiratory viruses largely to blame. As schools reopen with mask requirements that vary from county to county, the situation could escalate and cripple the health care system, hospital officials and medical professionals say.

    Maryland has not experienced the devastation of some Southern states, and the number of COVID-19 cases among children has not surpassed the winter and spring peaks. But with cases of respiratory syncytial virus, called RSV, on the rise, and with more children getting inpatient treatment for COVID-19 than during previous waves of the coronavirus pandemic, Maryland officials said the capacity to care for kids could be tested this fall and winter.

    "We are in a very significant planning stage for increased hospitalization," said Dr. Jason W. Custer, director of the pediatric intensive care unit at the University of Maryland Children's Hospital and associate professor of pediatrics at the university's medical school. "With the delta variant, and other viruses, and kids going back to school — coupled together, that does get our attention."

    About 2% of the COVID-19 patients hospitalized over the last two months in Maryland have been children younger than 19, said Dr. Ted Delbridge, executive director of the Maryland Institute for Emergency Medical Services Systems, which coordinates and oversees emergency care in the state. That's twice the volume of pediatric patients that needed hospital care at the beginning of the public health crisis, he said.

    Delbridge said it's unusual to see RSV detected in kids this early in the year. Its severity was largely dulled in 2020 and early 2021 with many schools operating remotely, families staying isolated and people generally covering their faces outside their homes.

    There are 271 staffed beds for pediatric care in the state, Delbridge said, and as of Friday, 204 were occupied. Among the 61 beds available in Baltimore pediatric intensive care units, 52 were occupied.

    Those figures do not include Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., which treats patients from Maryland. Dr. Sarah Ash Combs, a pediatric emergency medicine specialist and the hospital's emergency department director of outreach, said the facility had 300 cases of the disease caused by RSV in July, up from zero last winter. Also, COVID-19 cases have crept back up, she said.

    "It feels like COVID is back, with the caveat that it never really went away," Combs said.

    Maryland health care providers said they have the beds and the space to expand, should the situation worsen. But they may not have the staff — especially those with expertise in pediatrics — to support a surge.

    Nationally, a shortage of health care workers, particularly nurses, has made caring for COVID-19 patients especially challenging. Some have left the field altogether, while others have left the state for higher-paying, short-term jobs elsewhere.

    There is no overall shortage of medical professionals, said Bob Atlas, president and CEO of the Maryland Hospital Association, last week. But there are "mismatches," with some hospitals having too few workers.

    The health care system generally has more resources available for the adult population than for children, Custer said, which could pose a challenge in the weeks and months to come.

    Medical experts said it's too early to say for sure that the new COVID-19 delta variant causes more serious infections in young people than previous strains. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention considers it more contagious and more adept at breaking through the protective shields afforded by vaccinations.

    So long as pockets of Maryland and the U.S. remain unvaccinated, the coronavirus can continue to mutate and cause damage and disruption among those who have not been immunized and their families, said Dr. Gabe Kelen, director of the emergency medicine department at The Johns Hopkins Hospital.




    Maryland hospital beds for kids are filling up with COVID and other virus cases. When school starts, doctors say it could get worse. - Baltimore Sun

  14. #9
    I think the doctors are correct to be concerned. The beds for kids are filling up. I was in a meeting a couple of days ago with a pediatrician talking about this. He is concerned about COVID in kids because the other viruses are running rampant and COVID is very contagious (as is RSV) the combo is putting a strain on things, but this kind of reporting, using COVID as the red headed step child to scare people into compliance is not having the effect that will actually help.

    They reinstated the mask mandate for everyone this summer at work. (bummer!) THEN they send out an email that they want EVERYONE in KN95s. I was angry! But.... they realized a follow up email explaining that they wanted the KN95s in the classrooms (I work at a university) because it was impossible to spread everyone out. Ok, I can understand that for now, but those masks are expensive, and Staff, Faculty and Students are expected to purchase them. I'm advocating that if the university wants to force them, they should buy them! We'll see how that goes.

  15. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    not a surprise
    what helps against covid is also helping against flu
    I have a friend on FaceBook that CONSTANTLY brings up the flu numbers. I used to explain that the flu is MUCH less contagious than COVID and people actually washing their hands (and probably masks) have wiped it out. He continues to post stupid memes every week or so. This last time, I got mad and said, "I'm getting sick and tired of explaining the flu to you, knock it off!" He laughed, but hasn't posted anything since about it.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
You can avoid major, expensive repair costs with an extended service plan for your GMC. Many vehicle repairs can cost thousands of dollars in unexpected expense, now may be the time to consider an extended service plan for your vehicle.