Thread: Islamization Explained

This is excellent, if the numbers and stats are correct.

I don't agree with the fear mongering at the end. Jesus is coming again soon and Muslims are being converted in record numbers. We just don't hear enough about it, or at all in mainstream news.

"They exercise an excessive influence in proportion to their percentage of the population..."

Interesting video and makes you reflect on other immigrants of differing religions, I think one would be hard pressed to find instances of where Jews demanded conformity to their beliefs and practices from their host countries.

what part did you consider fear mongering?

it's interesting, I'd been reading, in another source, the numbers.

it's a difficult time coming.

I think the term, "fear mongering" is greatly overused. Speaking the truth is not fear mongering. How people respond to the truth and facts about radical islam and it's goals is up to them.

Seems to me the Church in the west has been living in so much denial for so long, their minds cannot even begin to grasp anything that does not conform to the gospel of positive thinking. Either God's grace will equip you to endure in these times, or it doesn't.

The basic truth is that if God removed his protective power, we would have a worldwide nuclear winter within 6 months.

The part I referred to as fear mongering was right at the end where they made it sound like Muslims would take over the world because their birthrates so far exceed all other religions... by the end of this century, Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population. So people who don't know Jesus, don't hear about the conversions, don't have SOME understanding of end times and the great harvest of all people groups in the world, would tend to get very afraid. That's all.

And as believers, we know that there's an entirely different scenario waiting for the world.

It's an excellent video, I think I said that in the OP.

I think that's valid....Christians should have a better grasp on these issues than the world. I think there are two ditches. Number one, Christians making these sweeping generalizations about how they will escape ANYTHING bad, because they don't understand that the world is in Matthew 24 SHAKINGS and birth pangs....the rapture isn't going to happen anytime soon, imo. I know that there is an "any day now" theology, which imo, doesn't make any sense whatsoever. We need to be God's hands and feet during this critical time of harvest. We ARE God's hands and feet during this critical time. The other thing is the dissemination of preterism and amillenniliasm in a good part of the Church via the Renewel Movement, which is far from preparing anyone for any hardships and shakings that are coming. We are told and promised shakings and birthpangs are coming by Jesus Himself, and these incidents are completely different than any rapture possibility.

The other side of the ditch is only focusing on the bad news in the world to the point that your mind and heart are weighed down and broken by it all. Well, thing is....we were put here on this earth during this critical time in human history. We know who will keep us all during these times and we simply have to walk close to God no matter what.

The problem is we have these two extremes: denial and fear. We don't have to walk in either. Unfortunately though, the vast majority of the Church lives in one of these two extremes. Even people who have orthodox end-times theology tend to be rapture-minded and not even willing to entertain the possibility that they will experience life outside of the western "comfort and peace" paradigm.

Originally Posted by A.J.

The part I referred to as fear mongering was right at the end where they made it sound like Muslims would take over the world because their birthrates so far exceed all other religions... by the end of this century, Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population. So people who don't know Jesus, don't hear about the conversions, don't have SOME understanding of end times and the great harvest of all people groups in the world, would tend to get very afraid. That's all.

And as believers, we know that there's an entirely different scenario waiting for the world.

It's an excellent video, I think I said that in the OP.

Originally Posted by CatchyUsername

The problem is we have these two extremes: denial and fear. We don't have to walk in either. Unfortunately though, the vast majority of the Church lives in one of these two extremes. Even people who have orthodox end-times theology tend to be rapture-minded and not even willing to entertain the possibility that they will experience life outside of the western "comfort and peace" paradigm.

All too true.

My daughter attends a PAOC Church where the pastor teaches preterism.

I recall you telling me that. I really hope and pray they are open to other possibilities.

Originally Posted by A.J.

All too true.

My daughter attends a PAOC Church where the pastor teaches preterism.