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    Medicine is all about opinion. Go to 10 different doctors and get 10 different opinions, the notion that your sources have "facts" is laughable.
    Fact. Hence, the term "getting a second opinion".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Fact. Hence, the term "getting a second opinion".
    Yes. What's really dangerous now is that all dissenting opinions, any one of which could hold keys to successful management of disease are being censored. That is not how you solve problems but I think we know by now that the whole "pandemic" has never been about solving problems, it's more about imposing a sinister agenda of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Medicine is all about opinion. Go to 10 different doctors and get 10 different opinions, the notion that your sources have "facts" is laughable.
    If I go to the doc because of my Hashimoto I do not ask for opinion, I ask for accurate blood results.
    These results are the basis of my treatement.
    If I get my coloscopy I want to know if and how many polyps are there and not a opinion
    If I fall and break my leg this will show in a x-ray, nothing to do with opinion
    I also believe that it is possible to do statistics, like how many babies get aborted, it is about facts and not opinion

    First comes evidence, and from there on you can make up your thoughts and opinions and conclusions.

    John, I am sorry that you have made bad experiences with docs and nurses, and that you have a hard time to believe that not all are nuts.
    I started to work in a hospital Nov 1973, and I have seen enough, bad and good. I am on the lucky side that I have seen plenty of medical workers doing the best they could. I am the first to admit that I have done mistakes, and I am sorry for them. I know co-workers who have done mistakes. Yet I do not think that docs and nurses deserve a general belitteling. We are human, but most try to give a good care
    And of course I have met docs I do not trust, they same as with plumbers or taxi drivers or ...

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    John, do you think CDC is not a good place to look for facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
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    Ain't it the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    John, do you think CDC is not a good place to look for facts?
    You are using the term "facts" quite loosely. As you almost got right in your previous post is that medicine works on opinions based on evidence. The CDC may provide evidence but they do not have a monopoly on what to do with that evidence, their opinions are not any more valid than any others.

    If I go to the doc because of my Hashimoto I do not ask for opinion, I ask for accurate blood results.
    These results are the basis of my treatement.
    If I get my coloscopy I want to know if and how many polyps are there and not a opinion
    If I fall and break my leg this will show in a x-ray, nothing to do with opinion
    You are describing evidence, test may show broken bones etc, but there are many opinions on how to treat. Test results can be evidence of disease, how to treat is opinion. You keep throwing around the notion that somehow your facts are superior when in fact the whole premise of "fact-based" medicine is total malarkey. That's not how it works but I think you already know that.

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    The CDC may provide evidence but they do not have a monopoly on what to do with that evidence, their opinions are not any more valid than any others.
    exactly.
    But i was talking about evidence, not about what CDC thinks about evidence.

    I never worked as RN in the US
    but in Switzerland evidence is rather a important thing in medicine. That is why we do so much diagnostic things.
    I am sorry if in the US evidence/fact based medicine is total malarkey.

    What I am talking about:
    Someone posted an article here that claimed to be based on the numbers CDC provides. I went to the CDC website and found different numbers. Now, what shall I believe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    6000% Increase in Reported Vaccine Deaths 1st Quarter 2021 Compared to 1st Quarter 2020


    As can be expected when new experimental "vaccines" that are not approved by the FDA are given emergency use authorization to fight a "pandemic" that is now over a year old, reported deaths following the injections of these shots have now skyrocketed in the U.S. population by over 6000% here at the end of the first quarter of 2021, as compared to recorded deaths following FDA-approved vaccines at ...

    6000% Increase in Reported Vaccine Deaths 1st Quarter 2021 Compared to 1st Quarter 2020 - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
    How does 1,754 vaccine deaths compare to over half a million Covid deaths ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    exactly.
    But i was talking about evidence, not about what CDC thinks about evidence.

    I never worked as RN in the US
    but in Switzerland evidence is rather a important thing in medicine. That is why we do so much diagnostic things.
    I am sorry if in the US evidence/fact based medicine is total malarkey.

    What I am talking about:
    Someone posted an article here that claimed to be based on the numbers CDC provides. I went to the CDC website and found different numbers. Now, what shall I believe?
    Why trust the CDC?

    Current clinical management of COVID-19 consists of infection prevention and control measures and supportive care, including supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilatory support when indicated. FDA has approved one drug, remdesivir (Veklury), for the treatment of COVID-19 in certain situations.
    Therapeutic Options for COVID-19 Patients | CDC

    No, I don't trust the CDC. They ignore the many successful treatments such as HCQ+zinc+Zpak and continue to advocate for the "treatments" that lead to death. They are ghoulish. Your typical doctor when faced with a corona diagnosis will tell you to go home, isolate and if the disease escalates come back to the hospital to get hooked up to a death machine. That is malpractice, in fact, quite evil. They do this, intentionally kill people under guidance from the CDC.

    A few very brave doctors have successfully treated the virus with various therapies and have provided evidence, they probably won't burn in hell.

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