Thread: Meat consumption and risk of incident dementia

Originally Posted by FireBrand

And rather communist in the attempt at making us vegetarians just because they are. I'm glad it bombed.

Nikos or somebody posted this in the political thread. This about sums it up.

"If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone."

Originally Posted by fuego

Nikos or somebody posted this in the political thread. This about sums it up.

"If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone."

There it is. (I hadn't seen that)

I believe this to be true, and not fake news:

Association between sedentary behavior and the risk of dementia: a systematic review and meta-analysis

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basically this: sedentary behavior was significantly associated with increased risk of dementia


Overall - I would say don't check out when you get to a certain age. Keep up good healthy habits - eat lean meats, vegetables, fruits and whole grains. Avoid fast food. Exercise most days.

My grandfather's adage: Get outside every single day.

Each additional 25 g/day intake of processed meat was associated with increased risks of incident all-cause dementia (HR: 1.44; 95% CI: 1.24, 1.67; P-trend < 0.001) and AD (HR: 1.52; 95% CI: 1.18, 1.96; P-trend = 0.001). In contrast, a 50-g/d increment in unprocessed red meat intake was associated with reduced risks of all-cause dementia (HR: 0.81; 95% CI: 0.69, 0.95; P-trend = 0.011) and AD (HR: 0.70; 95% CI: 0.53, 0.92; P-trend = 0.009).

So, the study makes clear that it's processed meats, not meats in general, that are the culprit.

Liberals have been saying this for a long time!!! It's the bacon supporters who have undermined this message.

Originally Posted by njtom

Each additional 25 g/day intake of processed meat was associated with increased risks of incident all-cause dementia (HR: 1.44; 95% CI: 1.24, 1.67; P-trend < 0.001) and AD (HR: 1.52; 95% CI: 1.18, 1.96; P-trend = 0.001). In contrast, a 50-g/d increment in unprocessed red meat intake was associated with reduced risks of all-cause dementia (HR: 0.81; 95% CI: 0.69, 0.95; P-trend = 0.011) and AD (HR: 0.70; 95% CI: 0.53, 0.92; P-trend = 0.009).

So, the study makes clear that it's processed meats, not meats in general, that are the culprit.

Liberals have been saying this for a long time!!! It's the bacon supporters who have undermined this message.

The fact is, there really are no facts about this, only speculation. The truth is we'll never know. So enjoy what you've decided to eat, and don't try and regulate what other people eat, especially with 'facts' there there really is no proof for when you actually see how they came up with the info.

Originally Posted by Highly Favoured

I believe this to be true, and not fake news:

Association between sedentary behavior and the risk of dementia: a systematic review and meta-analysis

303 See Other

basically this: sedentary behavior was significantly associated with increased risk of dementia


Overall - I would say don't check out when you get to a certain age. Keep up good healthy habits - eat lean meats, vegetables, fruits and whole grains. Avoid fast food. Exercise most days.

My grandfather's adage: Get outside every single day.

I can see where there could definitely be a correlation. People need so be active and exercise. My dad worked his whole life and didn't 'retire' until he was about 87 or so in perfect mind and health. He got dementia a couple of years later and died from the complications of it at 94. So I'm not sure if that verifies exercise or proves it doesn't matter. If you're not gonna get it if you're active, but the moment you get inactive you get it, then I guess most are doomed to dementia because many if not most get more inactive as they get older

Originally Posted by fuego

I can see where there could definitely be a correlation. People need so be active and exercise. My dad worked his whole life and didn't 'retire' until he was about 87 or so in perfect mind and health. He got dementia a couple of years later and died from the complications of it at 94. So I'm not sure if that verifies exercise or proves it doesn't matter. If you're not gonna get it if you're active, but the moment you get inactive you get it, then I guess most are doomed to dementia because many if not most get more inactive as they get older

My father-in-law was the same. He had an early heart attack (age 60) and after he recovered there was a swift, but not all encompassing change to their lifestyle. However, after age 70 there was a steady decline in exercise and when they moved into an apartment, the mental decline was pretty swift. I remember how shocked I was that when we visited and how often he asked the same questions within a span of a half and hour. He passed one day before his 78th birthday. The interesting thing I learned at that time was the dementia and its associated diseases (Alz, etc.) is often accompanied by cardiac conditions.

At the age of 63, type 1 diabetic for 35yrs, there is an amazing truth to what happens with being physically fit. Blood labs (A1C) for the first 25 years showed what doctors said "normal, I can't tell you are diabetic". How?? Intense weight training 4x weekly, no offseason rests. Back in 2011 our local gym boarded up and that's when I decided to take up cycling with the same energy and intensity. I have been steadily and consistently fit since my sophomore year in High School.

The entire medical field is totally unaware of this effect of lifelong physical fitness. As usual, they are instructed to systematically prescribing oxidase inhibitors and statins for diabetics. My favorite line from my incredible doctor is "the studies show that diabetics need to be on these meds". Well, that was until 3 years ago he now rebuts with "but you are NOT in that study group".

Treat it and live.

Originally Posted by FireBrand

At the age of 63, type 1 diabetic for 35yrs, there is an amazing truth to what happens with being physically fit. Blood labs (A1C) for the first 25 years showed what doctors said "normal, I can't tell you are diabetic". How?? Intense weight training 4x weekly, no offseason rests. Back in 2011 our local gym boarded up and that's when I decided to take up cycling with the same energy and intensity. I have been steadily and consistently fit since my sophomore year in High School.

The entire medical field is totally unaware of this effect of lifelong physical fitness. As usual, they are instructed to systematically prescribing oxidase inhibitors and statins for diabetics. My favorite line from my incredible doctor is "the studies show that diabetics need to be on these meds". Well, that was until 3 years ago he now rebuts with "but you are NOT in that study group".

Treat it and live.

I had two wake up calls: One was the loss of all muscle strength (even grip strength!) after my bout with Corona. My second wake up call was a sky-high cholestrol number.

I'm working out with diligence now and planning to work with a PT later this spring/summer to remedy some ROM and functionality issues in my knees and hips. I'm not growing old without a fight to remain strong and "spry".

Originally Posted by Highly Favoured

I had two wake up calls: One was the loss of all muscle strength (even grip strength!) after my bout with Corona. My second wake up call was a sky-high cholestrol number.

I'm working out with diligence now and planning to work with a PT later this spring/summer to remedy some ROM and functionality issues in my knees and hips. I'm not growing old without a fight to remain strong and "spry".

It's a good fight. Oatmeal will cut at least 10% from your cholesterol numbers. Exercise program and cutting back on sweets/cakes/cookies could easily cut another 10%. Try 3 months of that and watch it drop.