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Indisputable Proof of the Doctrine of Total Depravity of Man!
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The terrible twos.
The fit throwing threes.
The formidable fours.
....... and now my kids are 37, 35 and 33....
yup...........
I thought this was good:
Noting that her daughter, though small and cute,
some days leaves her and her husband weeping in despair, Eastwood went on to say that no one in their right mind could handle a toddler for any amount of time and come out on the other end thinking human beings are “basically good.”
Good one Bookie.
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I've said that for years!
lol
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Total Depravity? No...born separated from God and dependent solely on our human nature, yes.
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Originally Posted by
Quest
Total Depravity? No...born separated from God and dependent solely on our human nature, yes.
Just for clarification.. it doesn't mean that man is wholly depraved, in the way we use that word today.. it means totally inable to connect with God without His supernatural intervention.
So, basically what you said.
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Our human nature leans towards total depravity
When I look at human history and what man is doing each other in 2016 the more I believe this.
It's only God's grace we haven't obliterated the human race
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Originally Posted by
Femme*
Just for clarification.. it doesn't mean that man is wholly depraved, in the way we use that word today.. it means totally inable to connect with God without His supernatural intervention.
So, basically what you said.
So total depravity no longer means unable to accept the offer of grace and salvation when offered by Holy Spirit which is the supernatural intervention?
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Originally Posted by
Quest
So total depravity no longer means unable to accept the offer of grace and salvation when offered by Holy Spirit which is the supernatural intervention?
I might be misunderstanding what you mean here.
It means, Man, in his/her own power, will not/cannot seek God out on his/her own, apart from the work of the Holy Spirit, who starts the work in our heart.
I think that's supported Biblically.
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Originally Posted by
Femme*
It means, Man, in his/her own power, will not/cannot seek God out on his/her own, apart from the work of the Holy Spirit, who starts the work in our heart.
Yep, "The doctrine understands the Bible to teach that, as a consequence of the the Fall of man, every person born into the world is morally corrupt, enslaved to sin and is, apart from the grace of God, utterly unable to choose to follow God or choose to turn to Christ in faith for salvation."
"And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind." (Ephesians 2:1-3, ESV)
(http://www.theopedia.com/total-depravity)
Also called "Total Inability" perhaps for PC reasons.
Last edited by FunFromOz; 07-19-2016 at 01:24 AM.
Reason: Added last sentance
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In this area I support the Calvinist teaching.
What we have seen with horrific pedophilia, mass murders and other sickening crimes all done in many 'blessed' western nations proves to me that the human heart is capable of unspeakable evil
Thank God for the saviour and redeemer who is at work to transform us into his image
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