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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Bookman is right on target. We are to give when we can. If we are not able then no. If you have ever been without and not enough to make it you would understand this lady. Whether sweet or not has nothing to do with the scriptural injunction. My Bible says to bless your enemies. We are give and we are not to expect the lady to do anything for you in return.

    I am shocked at the reactions to this. Some of your need to check out you supply of compassion.
    Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

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    That involves stewardship on your part, not simply handing it all over to whoever asks. Giving all you have to Jesus is different to giving all you have to anyone who has figured out your literal interpretation of some of Jesus' statements. What do you think would have happened if immediately after Jesus made those statements someone had tag teamed asking him to walk a mile with them until he had dropped ? He would have told them that he didn't mean it that way, obviously.
    So your interpretation of "Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you" is that Jesus didn't really mean it? To me, that's worldly spin. Of course we have to be wise with what God has given us. But I would take very seriously Jesus's admonition to give to those who ask, especially those of the "household of faith." God sets certain people in situations where they are able to be a blessing to others, even if inconvenient. We should not refuse to accept those assignments so easily. We will miss a blessing from God ourselves.

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    Then prove it, please lend your credit card to Cardinal TT and hand over all your assets to me.

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    Then prove it, please lend your credit card to Cardinal TT and hand over all your assets to me.
    That's why I said we need to be wise about it. You are not in need and neither is the Cardinal. This neighbor of Redeemed's IS in need, apparently. Big difference. Some Christians are able to be on the giving side of the equation and others are on the receiving end. If you are on the giving side of the equation, then GIVE to those who are in need, particularly the ones God plants right next door to you. Must I quote more verses?

    Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God (Hebrews 13:6).

    Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor (Proverbs 14:21).

    if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth (1 John 3:17).

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    Jesus' statements do not say anything about someone being in need :

    Mat 5:40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.
    41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.
    42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

    Especially notice verse 42 which doesn't disqualify Cardinal TT and my requests in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Jesus' statements do not say anything about someone being in need :

    Mat 5:40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.
    41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.
    42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

    Especially notice verse 42 which doesn't disqualify Cardinal TT and my requests in any way.
    Though I do not really consider you or the Cardinal fools, I must plead Proverbs 26:4

    Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.

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    When it comes down to it you de-literalize Jesus' statements to where you feel better about them then judge others for doing the same just in a different way.

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    Just give as led. Jesus gave His life but most us aren't called to go that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Just give as led. Jesus gave His life but most us aren't called to go that far.
    We are called to give up our lives in this world but that is something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    When it comes down to it you de-literalize Jesus' statements to where you feel better about them then judge others for doing the same just in a different way.
    Well, I'd still like you to explain exactly what Jesus meant about helping the poor, given that you do not think He meant it literally. How, in your estimation, does one interpret those verses? Or do we just ignore them? Rationalize them to fit our own present behavior?

    In fact, look at the several verses I quoted and give me your spin....er, interpretation of what they mean, if not to be taken literally.

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