Thread: What is your spiritual DNA?

Originally Posted by Nikos

We need a revival of Pentecostalism that would bring us back to the Word and teaches us to get away from the fleshly desires that have come into the church with all kinds of excess. So much of charismatic is man trying to act out Holy Spirit manifestations that leaves us with fleshly garbage. Too many want to be a big shot when what they need is to get off that high chair and drape themselves over the altar and stay there until they get an outpouring if old fashioned Pentecostalism. Pentecostalism is not popular because it teaches that man needs God to do anything. Instead all we see in the church is "I<I<I<I<I<." We have forgotten what the word humbleness means.

According to Maria Woodworth-Etter, Pentecostalism was full of strange doctrines and practices and needed to be set straight. She wrote that in 1916, ten years after Azusa Street and 35 years into her own ministry. We tend to remember/recollect the very best parts and that is fine because that is worth reviving and building upon.

I'm not really sure how to break it down for me.

I know I'm very conservative, basic Bible..
I'm on the Reformed spectrum, but not exactly sure where.
(It seems I'm nearer Lutheran than some of the others)
There has to be at least a dash of Charismatic because I definitely believe in the active gifts of the Spirit.

Originally Posted by Colonel

According to Maria Woodworth-Etter, Pentecostalism was full of strange doctrines and practices and needed to be set straight. She wrote that in 1916, ten years after Azusa Street and 35 years into her own ministry. We tend to remember/recollect the very best parts and that is fine because that is worth reviving and building upon.

She was pre-pentecostal. Not main stream. Never-the-less a great woman. Her trances are not common in main-line pentecostalism There were and are excesses. People tend to major on the excesses instead of the solid-as-a-rock pentecostal doctrines and manifestations. I think the charismatics would have claimed her today.

I believe the Spirit can move upon someone but not infill them apart from the yielding of the tongue...

Originally Posted by Nikos

She was pre-pentecostal. Not main stream. Never-the-less a great woman. Her trances are not common in main-line pentecostalism There were and are excesses. People tend to major on the excesses instead of the solid-as-a-rock pentecostal doctrines and manifestations. I think the charismatics would have claimed her today.

According to the reports included in her biography her ministry was embraced by a vast number of leading figures within the Pentecostal movement at the time I mentioned. Including F F Bosworth whom she held meetings with, John G Lake who referred to her as "mother Etter" in his sermons, Aimee Semple McPherson who met her before she went to LA and Carrie Judd Montgomery who was a personal friend of hers. The Latter Rain Evangel printed a number of extremely positive reports from her meetings.

The Latter Rain Evangel was published monthly by the Stone Church, the significant early Pentecostal congregation in Chicago founded by William Hamner Piper. The Stone Church hosted the second General Council of the Assemblies of God in November 1914 as well as the 1919 General Council.

Originally Posted by Nikos

Basic pentecostal service like I grew up in. BTW I don't know these people:

Reminds me of the video from an A A Allen meeting that you posted. Just the people seem more restrained in the video above.

http://livingfaithforum.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post40998

Etters was before Azuza and she came out of the holiness movement when Pentecost was in its infancy. I have always seen her in tht light and not a major Pentecostal.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Reminds me of the video from an A A Allen meeting that you posted. Just the people seem more restrained in the video above.

http://livingfaithforum.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post40998

I assure you this songleader was a very typical Pentecostal, and certainly not a Shambach.

BTW, many articles on pentecostalism knew little about Pentecost and their articles reflected that. Pentecost was a special move of God and even chrismatics today are often ignorant of the way it came together at Azuza. There were many things at Azuza that were excessive. But within that great revival are the true ways that pentecost became a dynamic and powerful move of God.

Originally Posted by Nikos

Etters was before Azuza and she came out of the holiness movement when Pentecost was in its infancy. I have always seen her in tht light and not a major Pentecostal.

She helped found the Assemblies of God in 1914. Here is what the organization has to say about her today :

http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/1999...orth_etter.cfm

Their magazine "Pentecostal evangel" (then "Christian evangel") also printed a large number of positive reports from her meetings. In general she preached widely in Pentecostal circles after she embraced the movement in 1912.