Thread: Why Micromanaging is Ungodly

Originally Posted by victoryword

You expect a Calvinist to give you sensible logic?

Actually Calvinists are perhaps too logical VW; consider the Westminster Confession of Faith for example, explaining what they believe in over 150 pages with 2000+ Scripture references to support what it says.

My "pentecostal" church once had a 1/2 page "What We Believe" but doesn't even have that on our web site any more, so who knows what we (officially) believe!

For fun did a search and can find "The General Council of the Assemblies of God STATEMENT OF FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS" which is all of 5 pages and from our umbrella church "The doctrinal basis of the Australian Christian Churches (Assemblies of God in Australia)" which is all of 4 pages.

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

God created you Colonel, you belong to Him, why shouldn't He be able to decide what happens to you?

P.S. Do you like the wife and eternal destiny He choose for you?

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So Colonel you think that you as a sinful, rebellious, God hating, ignorant (of 99.99999.% of what's happened (or will happen) in the world), knowing only what you can remember experiencing, created creature would be better at choosing your eternal destiny than the all knowing, righteous, holy, loving and just God who specifically created you?

Are you suggesting that if one of "the nonelect" had been as sinless, obedient, loving and knowing as God then they would have chosen eternal hell as a destiny for themselves ?

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

Actually Calvinists are perhaps too logical VW; consider the Westminster Confession of Faith for example, explaining what they believe in over 150 pages with 2000+ Scripture references to support what it says.

My "pentecostal" church once had a 1/2 page "What We Believe" but doesn't even have that on our web site any more, so who knows what we (officially) believe!

For fun did a search and can find "The General Council of the Assemblies of God STATEMENT OF FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS" which is all of 5 pages and from our umbrella church "The doctrinal basis of the Australian Christian Churches (Assemblies of God in Australia)" which is all of 4 pages.

In my opinion, single predestination is the most illogical belief ever devised.

Originally Posted by Colonel

In my opinion, single predestination is the most illogical belief ever devised.

It's not nearly as complicated (and therby illogical) as http://livingfaithforum.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post42426 IMO


But then I guess you won't like these Colonel (though I think "Knuckle Head" is being a offensive - even if it's trying to say that no where in the Bible is anyone asked to choose salvation - the best there is is people asking what to do and then being told.)

Actually Paul said he was "not disobedient to the heavenly vision", suggesting that he could have been.

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

We're all sinful from conception Colonel so that's a non question.

No, it's a question you don't like.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Actually Paul said he was "not disobedient to the heavenly vision", suggesting that he could have been.

get up and stand on your feet; for this purpose I have appeared to you, to appoint you a minister and a witness not only to the things which you have seen, but also to the things in which I will appear to you; rescuing you from the Jewish people and from the Gentiles, to whom I am sending you, to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the dominion of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified by faith in Me.’

“So, King Agrippa, I did not prove disobedient to the heavenly vision, but kept declaring both to those of Damascus first, and also at Jerusalem and then throughout all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds appropriate to repentance.


You sure about that?

Originally Posted by Colonel

No, it's a question you don't like.

All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God Colonel so no one could be as sinless, obedient, loving and knowing as God. Sorry, it's a non-question.