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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    The same power can also heal people's minds, by faith. Allowing the Holy Spirit to override the flesh may be more difficult when there is a large physical problem present but it is not impossible. Again it involves faith.

    Turning off the mind completely and only being aware according to the human spirit is also possible. Not in terms of interacting with the world to any large degree but in terms of finding calm and equilibrium.
    This lady was just cured of cancer through faith....it's not a lack of faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    This lady was just cured of cancer through faith....it's not a lack of faith.
    That's great but faith is specific. Just because someone has great faith in one area doesn't necessarily mean that they have great faith in every other area. Faith requires that one has an understanding that one can have faith according to. A hope, so to speak. There are people who have a lot of faith in God including for healing but none for prosperity for instance, for the simple reason that they do not understand that God wants them to prosper, they do not have that hope based on scripture and therefore they cannot have faith according to that hope either.
    There's a danger that people are taught by a godless world that they are their brains and then when their brains are damaged then that is it. To some extent people are able to find new paths in their brains and are able to rewire themselves so that they can reconstruct their thought patterns but this seems to defined as being beyond that. Dr. Caroline Leaf talks about how our mind and brain are separate and that the mind affects and can effectively reprogram the brain. A Christian has the vantage point of having the mind of Christ and that is something powerful. Scripture reveals the mind of Christ. This is part of a healing process that goes beyond a simple reconstructive miracle taking place in a flash though that could be part of it.
    Even with a partly damaged brain, the absence of useful thoughts related to inhibition towards certain activities does not imply that the nature of the flesh now has free ticket to do whatever it wants. To someone who does not have the Holy Spirit that may be the case if the damage is sufficiently severe but the Holy Spirit steps in to override the nature of the flesh even when we don't understand everything at the thought level. If our hearts are with him and don't just align themselves with the perceived opportunity to go with the flesh now that there is an excuse. He also gives us understanding where there is none. I've seen that happen with retarded people who probably couldn't understand the gospel at the level of the mind yet they were able to connect by way of an understanding given them by the Spirit and they took it from there. What I just described naturally becomes part of a healing process. The Bible talks about walking on level paths so that the hurt limb can be healed. The Holy Spirit is our power where we have little power ourselves.

    Heb 12:12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,
    13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.
    14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    That's great but faith is specific. Just because someone has great faith in one area doesn't necessarily mean that they have great faith in every other area. Faith requires that one has an understanding that one can have faith according to. A hope, so to speak. There are people who have a lot of faith in God including for healing but none for prosperity for instance, for the simple reason that they do not understand that God wants them to prosper, they do not have that hope based on scripture and therefore they cannot have faith according to that hope either.
    There's a danger that people are taught by a godless world that they are their brains and then when their brains are damaged then that is it. To some extent people are able to find new paths in their brains and are able to rewire themselves so that they can reconstruct their thought patterns but this seems to defined as being beyond that. Dr. Caroline Leaf talks about how our mind and brain are separate and that the mind affects and can effectively reprogram the brain. A Christian has the vantage point of having the mind of Christ and that is something powerful. Scripture reveals the mind of Christ. This is part of a healing process that goes beyond a simple reconstructive miracle taking place in a flash though that could be part of it.
    Even with a partly damaged brain, the absence of useful thoughts related to inhibition towards certain activities does not imply that the nature of the flesh now has free ticket to do whatever it wants. To someone who does not have the Holy Spirit that may be the case if the damage is sufficiently severe but the Holy Spirit steps in to override the nature of the flesh even when we don't understand everything at the thought level. If our hearts are with him and don't just align themselves with the perceived opportunity to go with the flesh now that there is an excuse. He also gives us understanding where there is none. I've seen that happen with retarded people who probably couldn't understand the gospel at the level of the mind yet they were able to connect by way of an understanding given them by the Spirit and they took it from there. What I just described naturally becomes part of a healing process. The Bible talks about walking on level paths so that the hurt limb can be healed. The Holy Spirit is our power where we have little power ourselves.

    Heb 12:12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,
    13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.
    14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
    okie dokie....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    Tell that to a beautiful Holy Ghost filled family I know who are dealing with this exact thing. We have to be careful when we start saying such specific "advice".
    And... there are other Christian families that accept God's Word and the dominion that the resurrected Jesus gives His Children and they cast these devils out.

    satan often enjoys trying to legitimize his work as being a medical condition. Jesus and the Apostles never mentioned this garbage, they just cast the devil out!

    If a "beautiful Holy Ghost filled family" was actually being led by the Holy Ghost in their health, they would be being led to God's Word which teaches us how to get rid of devils and the effects they can have on our health.

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    Note that there is a current in science today that seeks to explain everything every human being does as a simple matter of what the brain is doing, with this being a simple matter of what is stored in it, what input it receives from the environment and how that brain processes that information. That way the existence of any kind of a soul apart from the working of our brains according to the laws of nature is rendered obsolete or even as having been proven not to exist. Some scientists see this task as the final step away from all religion and to where the world can be viewed in terms of materialism in a simple and straightforward way. The effect is of course that all responsibility is removed from the human being for its actions, those are now simply a matter of input -> output. Actions can be explained but noone can be held accountable for them. Change can be promoted but it will boil down to manipulation rather than a change of heart. Society can react but only in order to shield others and not to promote any kind of a repentance. As Christians we need to avoid that kind of a totalitarian way of thinking like the plague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    And... there are other Christian families that accept God's Word and the dominion that the resurrected Jesus gives His Children and they cast these devils out.

    satan often enjoys trying to legitimize his work as being a medical condition. Jesus and the Apostles never mentioned this garbage, they just cast the devil out!

    If a "beautiful Holy Ghost filled family" was actually being led by the Holy Ghost in their health, they would be being led to God's Word which teaches us how to get rid of devils and the effects they can have on our health.
    okie dokie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Note that there is a current in science today that seeks to explain everything every human being does as a simple matter of what the brain is doing, with this being a simple matter of what is stored in it, what input it receives from the environment and how that brain processes that information. That way the existence of any kind of a soul apart from the working of our brains according to the laws of nature is rendered obsolete or even as having been proven not to exist. Some scientists see this task as the final step away from all religion and to where the world can be viewed in terms of materialism in a simple and straightforward way. The effect is of course that all responsibility is removed from the human being for its actions, those are now simply a matter of input -> output. Actions can be explained but noone can be held accountable for them. Change can be promoted but it will boil down to manipulation rather than a change of heart. Society can react but only in order to shield others and not to promote any kind of a repentance. As Christians we need to avoid that kind of a totalitarian way of thinking like the plague.
    It was agent orange....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    okie dokie
    Yeah, oh well... it's just the Word of the living God and the price Jesus paid to redeem mankind... nothing important... which is why many people that blow off God's Word experience bad tings such as early death!

    I did not make this stuff up... God's Word teaches us that Jesus took our infirmities upon Himself so we do not have to have them.

    But sadly, many Christians reject this and opt to go to doctors who experiment on them which drugs, chemicals, and surgeries at great financial expense and pain with a not very good percentage rate of success.

    It's too bad that so many Christians reject Jesus as Healer.... Good luck with obamanation care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Yeah, oh well... it's just the Word of the living God and the price Jesus paid to redeem mankind... nothing important... which is why many people that blow off God's Word experience bad tings such as early death!

    I did not make this stuff up... God's Word teaches us that Jesus took our infirmities upon Himself so we do not have to have them.

    But sadly, many Christians reject this and opt to go to doctors who experiment on them which drugs, chemicals, and surgeries at great financial expense and pain with a not very good percentage rate of success.

    It's too bad that so many Christians reject Jesus as Healer.... Good luck with obamanation care.
    okie dokie

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