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    Hey FB, or any other gun owners...

    My sister hid my dad's gun a few years ago when he started getting dementia and we just found it today. Daddy passed away in May of '17 at 94. It says Special CTG on the barrel, but I can't make out the number before that which is 38 or 58. I don't think a service revolver would be a .22 though. My wife did find some bullets the other day before we found the gun and put them up. I need to find them and see if they're .22s. I think also on the barrel I saw that it was patented at the beginning of the 1900s. Not sure if it's that old or not though. If it was a service revolver it could be my grandfather's from WWI. Anyway, I have no idea.

    Anyway, I need help identifying this gun if you can help. I know it's a Smith and Wesson, and I'm pretty sure it's a .22 and am curious how old it is, etc. Here are a few pics:

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    I'm assume this is a bullet for it. It says 38 special on the bottom. So that number on the top of the barrel may be 38.


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    Here is some more info:

    "For example, pre-World War Two models have only numbers..." As you can see on the bottom of the grip the serial number has no letters like later models. So it appears to be a pre WW2 S&W.

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    I found out it as manufactured in 1919. Thanks for all your help.

    "That is a .38 Military & Police, Model 1905, 4th Change from 1919."

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    Yupper it's a .38 special. Nice round. Pretty cool piece!

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    From someone at a gun forum:

    Yes. 1919 but before heat treatment of the cylinder was implemented to strengthen it. I wouldn't worry about it breaking, though, as it was designed to withstand any current commercial pressure ammo that meets SAAMI specs and that includes standard pressure and +P. S&W has made about 7 million of the .38 M&P so they aren't very valuable unless there is something special about them. I'd say yours is about $300 or so.

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    Nice pistol. I would hold onto that one. Probably worth a lot of money.

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    The assessment of your pistol valuation is pretty close. The condition means everything. Rarity might help but usually the firearm resale market isn't what the general public thinks. The show Pawn Stars is a good reflection of gun prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    The assessment of your pistol valuation is pretty close. The condition means everything. Rarity might help but usually the firearm resale market isn't what the general public thinks. The show Pawn Stars is a good reflection of gun prices.
    They made 7 million of these things. So there's no scarcity. Maybe worth $300 to $400. Having belonged to my grandfather and my daddy, I would never sell it anyway...that is unless it was worth life-changing money.

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    They made 7 million of these things. So there's no scarcity. Maybe worth $300 to $400. Having belonged to my grandfather and my daddy, I would never sell it anyway...that is unless it was worth life-changing money.
    I have the 30-30 Savage 170 that my dad gave me for my first day of deer hunting (1971). It's beat up and jammed. I deemed it unsafe but don't want to throw it away.

    Then there's the Remingon model 1889 double barrel 12ga that is an absolute gem of a classic. It's still useable but you'd think the gunshops would work a trade with me. The one guy was drooling all over it but wouldn't trade because he didn't want the liability of it going out the door and someone putting a slug or high pressure shell in it. I was disappointed. It's rather valuable and it just sits in my case.

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