Thread: Questions about the Rapture

J.C. Ryle and Preterism

A.D. 70: Preterism’s Prophetic Dead End – Israel My Glory

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Originally Posted by Nikos

You are absolutely right. It is called the Doctrine of Imminence.

Interesting, never heard this before.

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Originally Posted by MercyandFaith

Interesting, never heard this before.

One site (I won't burden people with a link) says, "this doctrine of imminence is a pillar required to support the interrelated view called the pre-tribulaton rapture. Without imminence, the pre-trib view becomes impossible".

So it's circular Mercy, you need the "doctrine" of imminence to support pre-trib and it's needed if it is to be pre-trib.

However here (this was a valid link) we read, "Christianity is a religion founded on a message of good news rooted in the significance of the life of Jesus Christ. In Scripture, then, doctrine refers to the entire body of essential theological truths that define and describe that message". Speculation on the rapture, which is itself the subject of speculation, then should not be called "doctrine".

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Do you believe in preterism?

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

One site (I won't burden people with a link) says, "this doctrine of imminence is a pillar required to support the interrelated view called the pre-tribulaton rapture. Without imminence, the pre-trib view becomes impossible".

So it's circular Mercy, you need the "doctrine" of imminence to support pre-trib and it's needed if it is to be pre-trib.

Well - I could still see an argument that the Rapture itself could still be a surprise even if mid-Trib, just a lot harder. Even in the midst of disasters, calamity and war, there may still be brief lulls of peace or quiet during which the Rapture could happen - or even in the midst of chaos, people still aren't vigilant 24/7/365, every single waking second, thinking "is it coming, is it coming?" Even on a day like 9/11, there was still some peace and quiet in New York City, for analogy.

But I agree that imminence definitely suggests a pre-trib rapture more.

Imminence in relation to the rapture has been defined as consisting of three elements: "the certainty that He may come at any moment, the uncertainty of the time of that arrival, and the fact that no prophesied event stands between the believer and that hour."

Ref. https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/c...t=pretrib_arch

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