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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I don't know the statistics but in my parents' case in 1987 neither one had any love interest elsewhere until years after they actually divorced. Their marriage simply broke down. I don't think that is so uncommon. Some people are quick to go looking elsewhere at the point when they think that their marriage is inevitably going down the drain but that is different to when adultery or at least going in the direction of a "new model" as you say, is the initial cause of the divorce.
    I'm sorry to hear about your parents divorce Colonel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I'm sorry to hear about your parents divorce Colonel.
    That's a very long time ago. I was less happy when my dad shacked up with an unbelieving woman 5 years later (in my estimation it was nothing more than that) but then he repented and left 5 years later.

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    this is the sort of thing that Tullian Tchvidjian is going through right now.

    it's heartbreaking. The thing I respect is his being willing to be open about how God is dealing with him throughout it.

    I can't help but always remember David in these instances. Not only did he engage in adultery, but murder over it. And yet, God called him "a man after my heart".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    this is the sort of thing that Tullian Tchvidjian is going through right now.

    it's heartbreaking. The thing I respect is his being willing to be open about how God is dealing with him throughout it.

    I can't help but always remember David in these instances. Not only did he engage in adultery, but murder over it. And yet, God called him "a man after my heart".
    David did genuinely repent. That's what I find questionable about the situation with Todd Bentley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    That's a very long time ago. I was less happy when my dad shacked up with an unbelieving woman 5 years later (in my estimation it was nothing more than that) but then he repented and left 5 years later.
    I think that is why God hates divorce. We have a tendency to look at it as an event but in reality it is much more, it's kinda like the thing that keeps on giving, well after the papers are signed, generational in fact. Most of it, not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    this is the sort of thing that Tullian Tchvidjian is going through right now.

    it's heartbreaking. The thing I respect is his being willing to be open about how God is dealing with him throughout it.

    I can't help but always remember David in these instances. Not only did he engage in adultery, but murder over it. And yet, God called him "a man after my heart".
    That's my back yard, his church is a few miles away and it's been fodder for the local press.

    My understanding is that he cheated, she cheated in retaliation, and she is gone, wants nothing to do with him.

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    A pastor who commits adultery should never be allowed back in the pulpit. The ban must be permanent and absolute. If he repents he should be restored to Christian communion but not to Christian leadership.

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    John.. I don't know the particulars.. and I don't know hearts. I know what TT has said. (which is that she cheated first.. he didn't set out to, but made some missteps.)

    Basically, at this point, it doesn't matter. He is broken. He is under restoration. I hope she is too. it's wrenching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    A pastor who commits adultery should never be allowed back in the pulpit. The ban must be permanent and absolute. If he repents he should be restored to Christian communion but not to Christian leadership.
    Do you have actual scripture on this and not just "the tenets of some or other Pentecostal denomination" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    A pastor who commits adultery should never be allowed back in the pulpit. The ban must be permanent and absolute. If he repents he should be restored to Christian communion but not to Christian leadership.
    I've known quite a few adulterers and truth be told, the cheating is usually the tip of the iceberg when it comes to other character issues. I believe you are correct Nikos. The bible agrees with you as well.

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