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    I've heard a lot about this coming Sept, e.g. blood moons, special year in the Hebrew calendar, China planning on surprise crushing of dollar, etc. One report sent to me said something like "15 reasons the US economy will collapse in Sept."

    What is your take on the topic?

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    Not sure the collapse will happen in September, but it will probably happen by the end of the year. It will be a world-wide event, and won't just impact the US.

    And the Church is still asleep.....and woefully unprepared.

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    I've heard a lot about this coming Sept, e.g. blood moons, special year in the Hebrew calendar, China planning on surprise crushing of dollar, etc. One report sent to me said something like "15 reasons the US economy will collapse in Sept."

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    sept-oct should be a crash in the government bubble.

    Money will flee to safe havens, which will no longer be government debt. Incredibly it will flow to the US stock market, driving a massive rally (30,000 dow), sell in the 27ish-28 range because a crash will soon follow and THAT will be ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    sept-oct should be a crash in the government bubble.

    Money will flee to safe havens, which will no longer be government debt. Incredibly it will flow to the US stock market, driving a massive rally (30,000 dow), sell in the 27ish-28 range because a crash will soon follow and THAT will be ugly.
    Explain that further please...

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    There will be a great awakening, the corporate church of course may be a laggard in this area. The status quo is entrenched in much theology, most don't even want to know the truth but it should become abundantly clear that 2+2 really does not equal 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansc View Post
    I've heard a lot about this coming Sept, e.g. blood moons, special year in the Hebrew calendar, China planning on surprise crushing of dollar, etc. One report sent to me said something like "15 reasons the US economy will collapse in Sept."

    What is your take on the topic?
    This event has been in the making since Jesus death and resurrection..don't know if this will be THE final event but there is the anticipation that the church needs to downsize and cut the chains of dependence and materialism so when this comes our faith is in the right source and our hope is like that of Paul and the other apostles...in our temporal purpose and our eternal home...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Explain that further please...
    Money (or money flows) drives world events. What we have now is a massive government debt bubble, a lot of money has accumulated in government debt, it has always been seen or perceived as a "safe haven". We will begin to see government defaults (Greece much?) on a large, very large scale causing the money invested in government debt to go somewhere else, that "somewhere else" will be the US equity market (stocks).

    The stock market is in a bubble now but it will go much higher, there is nowhere else for the money to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatchyUsername View Post
    Not sure the collapse will happen in September, but it will probably happen by the end of the year. It will be a world-wide event, and won't just impact the US.

    And the Church is still asleep.....and woefully unprepared.
    Some are waking and have been for several years now...
    Reminded again of a word I got from the Lord several years ago regarding Gideon. I have shared it here before..

    Short version..God was looking for His '300' for the next greet movement/battle. Some have already said no...some are teeter tottering...some have said yes but won't and some have said yes and will...

    I told Him that 'Yes, I am afraid but I want to be prepared...' but I am not so arrogant as to be convinced I am going to be ready...I live each day knowing I need to be submissive to the preparation process...'

    The other thing He showed me was that ALL shared in the spoil...keep our hearts in love with our brethren no matter what...because it is and will all be done by grace through faith. No room for anyone to boast! If we start to boast and not walk in love we lose our spot in the army...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Some are waking and have been for several years now...
    Reminded again of a word I got from the Lord several years ago regarding Gideon. I have shared it here before..

    Short version..God was looking for His '300' for the next greet movement/battle. Some have already said no...some are teeter tottering...some have said yes but won't and some have said yes and will...
    Well, I attend a fantastic Church, but I've only met two people out of almost 300 that are remotely in tune with what is going on. Even on this forum, I doubt that even 90% of posters here are prepared for what is coming. What most people say is that when/if a collapse comes, they will just, "trust God". That's fine, but God has set watchmen/messengers/prophets in the Church to warn about what is coming. I tried to have this discussion 6 years ago at my old Church and I was met with:

    -We can't speak doom and gloom because our words have creative power, and it will come to pass
    -Y2K was a dud, and therefore, we don't really know if any talk of a financial crises will really pan out
    -And other assorted, "I don't want to know the truth" sort of platitudes

    BTW, I don't call myself a prophet.


    I told Him that 'Yes, I am afraid but I want to be prepared...' but I am not so arrogant as to be convinced I am going to be ready...I live each day knowing I need to be submissive to the preparation process...'
    The only thing a Christian can do is to hear what God is saying to THEM PERSONALLY. Different cities and different regions will have different concerns.

    The other thing He showed me was that ALL shared in the spoil...keep our hearts in love with our brethren no matter what...because it is and will all be done by grace through faith. No room for anyone to boast! If we start to boast and not walk in love we lose our spot in the army...
    Quest, who is boasting, and what do you mean by that? I think that most prophets that have warned for years have wept in their prayer closet that:

    -The Church cannot even discern the voice through His messengers.....people cannot even recognize Jesus when He is literally speaking through His people....to warn, to lead, to prepare
    -When a collapse comes, most people will not be prepared spiritually, emotionally, psychologically, or in the natural
    -Much of the western Church world has embraced the gospel of positive thinking, more than the gospel of The Cross.

    I recall sitting in a Walmart parking lot about 7 years ago with tears running down my face, looking at my husband and saying, "I'm grieving for my country, and I know I have to say goodbye to her". I have also had several dreams of warning and what was coming with regard to a financial collapse, inflation, and how God would keep me. But most people handwaive away anything that doesn't comport with the gospel of positive thinking, and so people don't want to "go there" in their thinking.

    So to be honest with you, I don't even mention this stuff to people at my Church, because much of my Church has embraced that damnable doctrine called a-millenialism, which is heavily promoted in Renewel circles such as Bethel and others. "The world is getting better and better" says Chris Vallotton (I heard his teaching on MP3 and that is verbatim what he said).

    So my family and I spend time in prayer for our Church family because we know when all this goes down, they will be shell-shocked and unprepared. I weep for my Church family. I don't know ANYONE who is boastful, so I find your comment here a bit strange.

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