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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    2. Kenneth Copeland doesn't prophecy in the normal sense but says strongly what he believes is from God
    http://endtimeheadlines.org/2016/02/...ext-president/

    What happens if KC is wrong and Cruz doesn't become Prez
    "Copeland introduced Cruz's father by asserting that "I believe, with all my heart, that his son is called and anointed to be the next president of the United States."

    I listened to the whole video and there is no specific prophecy saying that he WILL become the next President of the US. Just because someone is called to do something does not necessarily mean that it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    I didn't watch the whole video but per the points made especially between the 3 and 5 minute mark, in 1988 Jones said that "the black panthers are coming to Charlotte...they're coming to the lumber yard in Charlotte" and he was right.

    The 'Panthers' with their logo of a black panther came to Charlotte and their stadium was built on an old lumber yard. Then Joyner starts talking about how stadiums are being built for the purpose of preparing to hold crowds for revivals. I didn't heard anything in regards to them being prophesied to win the Super Bowl this year.

    RJ quotes Bob Jones at 9 minutes about Kansas City Royals winning World series ...has revival occurred in Kansas?????

    The things RJ says in the video regarding revival I like but in regard to the sporting prophecies there is too much speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    "Copeland introduced Cruz’s father by asserting that “I believe, with all my heart, that his son is called and anointed to be the next president of the United States.”

    I listened to the whole video and there is no specific prophecy saying that he WILL become the next President of the US. Just because someone is called to do something does not necessarily mean that it will happen.

    KC spoke authoritatively and what he said was as close to prophecy as possible...he is convinced he heard from God

    You pulled the 'get out of jail card' - 'Just because someone is called to do something does not necessarily mean that it will happen' ...that's a giant cop out and you are making excuses already just in case it fails

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    I didn't watch the whole video but per the points made especially between the 3 and 5 minute mark, in 1988 Jones said that "the black panthers are coming to Charlotte...they're coming to the lumber yard in Charlotte" and he was right.

    The 'Panthers' with their logo of a black panther came to Charlotte and their stadium was built on an old lumber yard. Then Joyner starts talking about how stadiums are being built for the purpose of preparing to hold crowds for revivals. I didn't heard anything in regards to them specifically being prophesied to win the Super Bowl this year.
    I felt he presented it as a huge "If this happens, THEN this has been prophecied..." I didn't, at any point, hear him prophecy that the Panthers would win. In fact, very early in the video, he said that over 10 years ago, the Panthers were in the Superbowl and it was the same, "what if!" and they got all excited ....... but the Panthers lost... SO there will be another Superbowl, or maybe more than one, when the Panthers play. It's definitely something to watch for, but Rick Joyner, nor Bob Jones, prophecied it would be this one.

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    I haven't followed the links, but it sounds foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    I haven't followed the links, but it sounds foolish.
    Why? God uses the foolish to confound the wise. Who's to say that it couldn't be a sign? It was never date stamped.

    And for the record, I'm not one to jump on every wonderful sounding prophecy. I read or listen and then pray and ponder. Some are too pie in the sky to ponder for more than a minute, but many are ........ hmmmmmmmm...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Have come across 2 words by recognized ministers.

    1. Rick Joyner on Panthers winning Superbowl....http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...-comes-to-pass

    I struggle to see how winning a football game can be linked to revival

    2. Kenneth Copeland doesn't prophecy in the normal sense but says strongly what he believes is from God
    http://endtimeheadlines.org/2016/02/...ext-president/



    Rick was wrong as Panthers lost Superbowl...should he apologise?

    What happens if KC is wrong and Cruz doesn't become Prez


    IMO making sporting prophecies that speak of national revival doesn't make sense
    I havent watched the videos but it already sounds like they would tell you it is prophecy come to pass if it does come to pass and just a hunch or possibility or God's will if it doesnt come to pass. Copeland has speculated about presidents and been wrong before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I havent watched the videos but it already sounds like they would tell you it is prophecy come to pass if it does come to pass and just a hunch or possibility or God's will if it doesnt come to pass. Copeland has speculated about presidents and been wrong before.
    If you watch the Rick Joyner video, at no time does he actually SAY the Panthers will win this Superbowl. And since they didn't, I guess we'll have to wait till next time to judge the prophecy, which was Bob Jones'.

    I didn't watch the other one, so I have no opinion on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    If you watch the Rick Joyner video, at no time does he actually SAY the Panthers will win this Superbowl. And since they didn't, I guess we'll have to wait till next time to judge the prophecy, which was Bob Jones'.


    RJ didn't fully commit himself just in case he was wrong but then why make a special broadcast to link the prophecy to an outbreak of revival.
    He was really hoping and praying Panthers would win so he could declare everyone get ready for revival

    RJ basically said that revival and the Panthers winning Superbowl go hand in hand so that means America HAS TO WAIT until the Panthers win Superbowl before a genuine revival comes.

    What does this say to all the people fasting, praying, interceding, giving and serving faithfully that no national revival until a FOOTBALL game is won
    God has basically linked revival to a team winning a football game

    That is ludicrous and that is why we have to test all prophecies/words


    If a well respected prophetic voice said someting similar down here I would totally reject it


    I still remain respectful of RJ and his giftings but he is not God and neither was BJ. We judge the Words and so far they are severely lacking

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