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    Sounds interesting, but isn't Traverse City a liberal bastion as well? We'd definitely have to move!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muriel View Post
    Sounds interesting, but isn't Traverse City a liberal bastion as well? We'd definitely have to move!
    TC: Diverse City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    TC: Diverse City.
    I have called TC "Sodom North" for quite a few years now.

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    Since the current political divide in America is urban/rural rather than north/south or coastal/interior,
    I propose we create a new state for every metro area in the USA having a population over 1 million.

    And here's the list. Guess we'd need to build a bigger Senate chamber and
    design a new flag.

    1 New York City-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA MSA 19,216,182
    2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA MSA 13,214,799
    3 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI MSA 9,458,539
    4 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA 7,573,136
    5 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX MSA 7,066,141
    6 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA 6,280,487
    7 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL MSA 6,166,488
    8 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA 6,102,434
    9 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA MSA 6,020,364
    10 Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ MSA 4,948,203
    11 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH MSA 4,873,019
    12 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley, CA MSA 4,731,803
    13 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 4,650,631
    14 Detroit–Warren–Dearborn, MI MSA 4,319,629
    15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA 3,979,845
    16 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI MSA 3,654,908
    17 San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad, CA MSA 3,338,330
    18 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA 3,194,831
    19 Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO MSA 2,967,239
    20 St. Louis, MO-IL MSA 2,803,228
    21 Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD MSA 2,800,053
    22 Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC MSA 2,636,883
    23 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA 2,608,147
    24 San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX MSA 2,550,960
    25 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA MSA 2,492,412
    26 Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom, CA MSA 2,363,730
    27 Pittsburgh, PA MSA 2,317,600
    28 Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV MSA 2,266,715
    29 Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown, TX MSA 2,227,083
    30 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN MSA 2,221,208
    31 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 2,157,990
    32 Columbus, OH MSA 2,122,271
    33 Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN MSA 2,074,537
    34 Cleveland-Elyria, OH MSA 2,048,449
    35 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA 1,990,660
    36 Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN MSA 1,934,317
    37 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA 1,768,901
    38 Providence-Warwick, RI-MA MSA 1,624,578
    39 Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI MSA 1,575,179
    40 Jacksonville, FL MSA 1,559,514
    41 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 1,408,950
    42 Raleigh-Cary, NC MSA 1,390,785
    43 Memphis, TN-MS-AR MSA 1,346,045
    44 Richmond, VA MSA 1,291,900
    45 New Orleans-Metairie, LA MSA 1,270,530
    46 Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN MSA 1,265,108
    47 Salt Lake City, UT MSA 1,232,696
    48 Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown, CT MSA 1,204,877
    49 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA 1,127,983
    50 Birmingham-Hoover, AL MSA 1,090,435
    51 Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA 1,077,370
    52 Rochester, NY MSA 1,069,644
    53 Tucson, AZ MSA 1,047,279

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    Are all of those blue ?

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    Nah, Michigan turns mostly democrat south of US 10. That is where all the major cities are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Are all of those blue ?
    I'd guess most.

    For example, here's a chart showing the blue/red divide in the conservative state of Utah,
    with Salt Lake City in the upper right.

    Edit: Sorry, the image link doesn't work. Here's the entire article:

    2016 United States presidential election in Utah - Wikipedia

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    Can't see the chart. The Mormon stronghold of Salt Lake City seems like an obvious exception though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Nah, Michigan turns mostly democrat south of US 10. That is where all the major cities are.
    Not really all democrat down here, this map is from the 2016 election. But what is going on with that big blue splotch in the UP?

    A great idea for Michigan!-screenshot_2020-11-24-15-18-39-1-jpg

    How Michigan'''s 15 most populous counties voted in 2016 - mlive.com

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    The best solution isn't to split the nation up, but to create more conservative states. Each state represents 2 additional Republican senators (for instance, split Wyoming into East Wyoming, South Wyoming, North Wyoming, West Wyoming.) Keep doing this and eventually you have a 200-seat Senate in which Republicans hold a majority of roughly 150-50.

    This also means that Wyoming goes from being a 3-electoral-vote state, to suddenly four Wyomings who command 12 electoral votes in total. If we repeat this process with Montana, Nebraska, Idaho, Oklahoma, etc. it would then give Republicans something like 70% of all Electoral College votes.

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