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Thread: If the Electoral College votes on December 14 and Biden gets 270, is it officially over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    I think the hope was that they would select Pence rather than Trump. That's my recollection at least.
    Why would they want them to defect for another Republican? It was for Hillary, or not vote at all to deny him the 270 needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Is it officially over after Biden is inaugurated ?
    I don't know if this is a joke, sarcasm, or serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyandFaith View Post
    Yes, but electors are extremely vetted for loyalty. They are typically the most diehard of diehards. Anybody who showed the slightest sign of wavering, wouldn't be selected in the first place.

    The odds of a Democratic elector voting for Trump are as low as that of Hillary, Obama, Kamala or Pelosi voting for Trump. That's how loyal these electors are.

    The odds of 20, 30 or 40 Democratic electors voting for Trump, is zilch. One would have a better chance of winning the Powerball than of that happening.
    Good point. I was thinking of the scenario in which Republican state legislators select a group of Republican electors even though the popular vote in their state was won by Biden. Again, I think it's very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Why would they want them to defect for another Republican? It was for Hillary, or not vote at all to deny him the 270 needed.
    I believe there were questions among some Republican electors about the fitness of Mr. Trump. If I recall, one or two actually did vote for someone other than him but I don't recall the details. Also, I think that many Democrats would have preferred Mr. Pence to Mr. Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    I believe there were questions among some Republican electors about the fitness of Mr. Trump. If I recall, one or two actually did vote for someone other than him but I don't recall the details. Also, I think that many Democrats would have preferred Mr. Pence to Mr. Trump.
    You actually had more defect against Hillary and vote for Trump, but their votes couldn't be changed due to their state laws about electors not being able to change their votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyandFaith View Post
    I don't know if this is a joke, sarcasm, or serious.
    I'm merely asking a question. What would happen if major election fraud were to be proven only some time after the inauguration ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I'm merely asking a question. What would happen if major election fraud were to be proven only some time after the inauguration ?
    I could step in as Potus to bring order

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I could step in as Potus to bring order
    At some point that will start to make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    At some point that will start to make sense.
    It is always sensible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I'm merely asking a question. What would happen if major election fraud were to be proven only some time after the inauguration ?
    In that case, impeachment would probably be the only recourse. And it would almost certainly fail to remove Biden from office, because you would need around 15-17 Democratic senators to go along with the vote to remove from office, and they would certainly refuse.

    And even if it did succeed, it would simply mean Kamala becomes president, which is hardly an improvement at all; indeed, Kamala would be more liberal than Biden himself.

    So - yes, when Biden is inaugurated, there is truly no more recourse.

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