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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Jesus only asked them about information pertaining to their demonization of a particular individual that he was ministering to.
    See, I give you an answer that answers it, but you have your own spin on that too as to why that isn't the same thing. No point in continuing the convo. Have at it among yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Please quote that.
    Bro. Hagin was preaching in a church that had a demon up in the rafters. The demon dropped down to the center of the church onto the floor. He said it looked like an ape.
    The demon told Bro. Hagin, "I don't have to leave." Bro. Hagin said, "Oh yes you do!" In the name of Jesus leave the premises now. The demon ran up the center of the church and out through the closed doors. He said it went down the street to a bar called the "Green Lantern." The bar burned down later that night according to Bro. Hagin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Bro. Hagin was preaching in a church that had a demon up in the rafters. The demon dropped down to the center of the church onto the floor. He said it looked like an ape.
    The demon told Bro. Hagin, "I don't have to leave." Bro. Hagin said, "Oh yes you do!" In the name of Jesus leave the premises now. The demon ran up the center of the church and out through the closed doors. He said it went down the street to a bar called the "Green Lantern." The bar burned down later that night according to Bro. Hagin.
    That's a matter of taking authority over the demon, not of extracting information about general spiritual activities.
    And the demon did what one would expect, it tried to talk Hagin into believing a lie : that it didn't have to leave.

    The same happens in the account found here, from page 82 and on :

    http://storage.cloversites.com/bushf...in-Visions.pdf

    Also, it takes place inside a vision involving Jesus.

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    Do your own research. Start with 'I Believe In Visions' book.
    I'll echo with Hagin's book "In The Name Of Jesus". I read that when I was 6mos in the Lord. My father in the faith gave it to me to read.

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    If the article in the OP is supposed to relate a vision given by God where a demon is allowed to enter in and has to tell the truth under the authority of Christ then, in that case, that should qualify as the most unclear description of that that I have ever seen. Even when guessing that that is what it is supposed to mean, he comes across as a crazy prophet with no clarity at the teaching level. Does he think that people read that, don't get the "implicits" and then they don't take what it looks like seriously ? "Satan showed up and explained this to me". The anti-charismatics would have a field day with that one : "this lunatic thinks he is in cahoots with both God and Satan, how does that qualify him for a rank and file heretic".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Why would a demonic being visit a minister and tell him the truth about demonic activity ?
    It wasn't a demon in person, it was a vision. God uses visions to show us things. Jeremiah was given a vision in which this demonic entity appeared before him. That is an important distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    It wasn't a demon in person, it was a vision. God uses visions to show us things. Jeremiah was given a vision in which this demonic entity appeared before him. That is an important distinction.
    He isn't clear about that. Demonic entities that appear visibly always appear in some sort of vision, they don't have physical bodies in this world. I saw a demon physically when I was about 5 and I can assure you that it wasn't a vision given by God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    It wasn't a demon in person, it was a vision. God uses visions to show us things. Jeremiah was given a vision in which this demonic entity appeared before him. That is an important distinction.
    I tried to explain that but to no avail.

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