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    God's not behind the Trump loss

    Many people erroneously believe that God puts leaders into office to rule our cities, states and nations. This reasoning is wrong. Elected officials who are placed in government and in every area of society are there because men and women put them there. They were elected by the populace who chose to put them in seats of power.

    "They have set up kings, but not by Me; they made princes, and I knew it not.
    Of their silver and their gold have they made idols, that they may be cut off
    (Hoses 8:4).

    Folks, Donald Trumps loss today was orchestrated and had been in the planning for some time by Evil forces, including traitors in the FBI, CIA, the Pentagon, treasonous bureaucrats, retired military, Obama, Brennan, Biden, Clinton, and a host of others who conspired to steal and sabotage this election.

    If you think about it, even common sense will reason with your mind that God did not put Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Mao, Kim, Amin, Khomeini, Clinton, Obama into office. Satan put these leaders in charge of their countries through corrupt godless people who were unbelievers, and Christians that are too carnal and ignorant of Bible guidelines for electing leaders.

    I'm sure everyone here at LFF is appalled that Biden is at center stage as the president-elect because of his uncheckered godless past. And because he is nothing more than a New World Order puppet installed in the highest office of of the land to do their bidding.

    Biden is against Israel and the values and morality of Bible believing fundamental Christians. He supports abortion, homosexuality, the enemies of Israel, including Islam, and the goals of the United Nations which includes all religions except true Christianity.

    This has so far been a successful coup in which to rob President Trump of four more years in office.

    Jesus Christ Loves President Donald Trump and it is His desire that he remains President for another term because Mr. Trump backs and supports the nation of Israel and the freedoms of Bible believing Christians in America.

    We must pray that the legality of the election succeeds as an investigation goes forth in the next coming weeks. Pray that overwhelming evidence of voter corruption and fraud will come to light in which the table is turned on the deep state and president Trump regains another four year term in office.
    We must pray as if our life depends on it, because it does.
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    The Bidens are one of the worst crime families in the USA, if not the world... Can't imagine what the world, seriously, the WORLD would look like if that war mongering, murderous, money and power hungry, pedophile, human trafficking family got in power. It would be Armageddon... and it's not yet time for that.

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    How do you understand Daniel's words (Dan 2:19-23 and 4:17)

    19 Then the secret was revealed to Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven; 20 Daniel said,
    "May the name of God be blessed forever and ever,
    For wisdom and power belong to Him.
    21 It is He who changes the times and the periods;
    He removes kings and appoints kings;
    He gives wisdom to wise men
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    And knowledge to people of understanding.
    22 It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things;
    He knows what is in the darkness,
    And the light dwells with Him.
    23 To You, God of my fathers, I give thanks and praise,
    For You have given me wisdom and power;
    Even now You have made known to me what we requested of You,
    For You have made known to us the king's matter."

    14 This sentence is by the decree of the angelic watchers,
    And the decision is a command of the holy ones,
    In order that the living may know
    That the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind,
    And He grants it to whomever He wishes

    And sets over it the lowliest of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    How do you understand Daniel's words (Dan 2:19-23 and 4:17)
    Here are a few of the evil kings who ruled Israel.

    Elah, Zimri, Tibni, Ahizah, Athaliah, Shallum, and Ahab.


    Here are several good kings who led Israel.

    Asa, Jehoshaphat, Jotham, Hezikiah, and Josiah.

    Did God place the evil kings over Israel or the good kings over Israel?

    Satan was then and still is the god of this present evil world system we live in and he has had his evil minions in the past just as he still does today to do his evil bidding.

    When God instills a godly leader over a society to lead, Satan will begin to work behind the scenes to remove God's choice and instill his own.

    Ever play chess? God and Satan have been in a chess match since the fall. God working on behalf of mankind and Satan working to destroy mankind.

    Donald Trump was God's choice and Joe Biden was Satan's choice. And the chess match continues!
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    Smitty, that is an excellent post. I am tired of people, under the guise of "God is in control" and "He is sovereign" blaming Him for evil people being placed in leadership. If God tells us He hates the shedding of innocent blood then why would He irresistibly place leaders in office that go directly against His personal mandates?

    This theology is the very thing responsible for taking the fight out of Christians and keeping them from praying in faith. They just "submit" to the "sovereign will of God" and allow evil to reign. Que sera, sera, whatever will be will be. That is paganism and not Biblical truth.

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    Many people erroneously believe that God puts leaders into office to rule our cities, states and nations. This reasoning is wrong. Elected officials who are placed in government and in every area of society are there because men and women put them there.
    You are saying, that Mr Trump was not put in office by God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    You are saying, that Mr Trump was not put in office by God?

    I will also deflect and ask you - Was Hitler put in office by God to rule Germany and start WW2 to kill 50 million people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    You are saying, that Mr Trump was not put in office by God?
    No! I believe He was. But God is spirit. He doesn't vote. People vote. The majority rules. What percentage of people held to conservative values in this election? What percentage of people were influenced by spiritual darkness and by the spirit of this world in this election? In 2016 there was very little voter corruption if none at all. Trump won then because decent conservative people of faith voted for him in more numbers. His opposition (Clinton voters) could not overcome the numbers. God uses His people just as Satan uses his people to bring about general elections results.
    I believe the same thing happened this week in 2020. Trump won! The reason the outcome is different is because of ballot tampering and voter corruption. I believe God is working behind the scenes to reverse and remove Biden and reinstate Trump. Again, He is spirit and uses people such as lawyers, the courts, and those involved the legal system. If Trump wins out in the end, its because God over saw the process and put him back in office. Of coarse, the devil is at work too, but I'm believing God will prevail through the people He is using to see a Trump victory. Pray Donald Trump triumphs and God gets the glory.
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Did God place the evil kings over Israel or the good kings over Israel?
    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Smitty, ... I am tired of people ... blaming Him for evil people being placed in leadership.
    To quote Daniel again,

    Dan 4:17 This sentence is by the decree of the angelic watchers,
    And the decision is a command of the holy ones,
    In order that the living may know
    That the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind,
    And He grants it to whomever He wishes
    And sets over it the lowliest of people


    Dan 2:21 It is He who changes the times and the periods;
    He removes kings and appoints kings;
    He gives wisdom to wise men
    ,

    Yes, "Satan was then and still is the god of this present evil world system", but where does the Bible say that God only appoints good rulers? I read something recently (I can't remember where so I have no chance of finding it) that the Bible talks a lot more about God's wrath then his love. And anyway suggesting that "God and Satan have been in a chess match since the fall. God working on behalf of mankind and Satan working to destroy mankind", isn't that putting them on an equal footing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I will also deflect and ask you - Was Hitler put in office by God to rule Germany and start WW2 to kill 50 million people?
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