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    So who will win ?



    Kat Kerr does at least have no doubts about that. See 2:00-4:00.

    That's a 50/50 prophecy, the stuff about no burning of cities etc makes it a little bit less probable though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    That's a 50/50 prophecy,
    Is there such a thing in the Bible.

    I can't find a recent post I made so looked again at things:

    Deut 18:20 "But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name, a word which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'"

    Deut 18:22 "When the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, and the thing does not happen or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously" (so see Deut 18:20)

    Deut 13:1-3 "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, 'Let us go after other gods,' which you have not known, 'and let us serve them,' you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Is there such a thing in the Bible.

    I can't find a recent post I made so looked again at things:

    Deut 18:20 "But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name, a word which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'"

    Deut 18:22 "When the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, and the thing does not happen or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously" (so see Deut 18:20)

    Deut 13:1-3 "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, 'Let us go after other gods,' which you have not known, 'and let us serve them,' you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul."
    Let's see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Let's see what happens.
    Can I predict?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Can I predict?
    Not unless you want a 50 percent chance of being termed the false prophet of the occasion. You could try telling us that God stepped into your livingroom and gave you a rock that has such-and-such candidate's name on it, that would make things more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Not unless you want a 50 percent chance of being termed the false prophet of the occasion.
    And what would happen if I got it wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    You could try telling us that God stepped into your livingroom and gave you a rock that has such-and-such candidate's name on it, that would make things more interesting.
    But if I did you'd immediately know I'm a false prophet.

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    I am not in favor of false predictive prophecies being left unchallenged. However some Calvinists do not understand that many personal prophecies(if not all) are dependent on our active participation with the prophecy to bring It to pass. A prophet once gave a man a "Word" that he had a Pastoral call on his life to eventually shepherd a flock of believers. Many who knew this man agreed that he had a great potential for ministry. But the man would never let Biblical discipline rule his life and died from a drug overdose. Did the prophet fail to see this ? The prophetic Word would never be fulfilled unless there was obedience to the written Word. So a Calvinist would say this was the will of God and the prophecy was never intended to be fulfilled. That is utter nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post
    However some Calvinists do not understand that many personal prophecies(if not all) are dependent on our active participation with the prophecy to bring It to pass.
    Do we have Scriptural support for that LionHeart?

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    Yes
    Last edited by LionHeart; 11-01-2020 at 02:45 PM.

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    Is. 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: 20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

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