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    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post
    Is. 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: 20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
    That LionHeart is in the form:

    If A
    Then B (will happen)
    Else C (will happen)

    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post
    A prophet once gave a man a "Word" that he had a Pastoral call on his life to eventually shepherd a flock of believers.
    This (as written) however is of the simple structure:

    A (will happen)

    How do we exegesis Isaiah 1:19 and come to the conclusion that

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    many personal prophecies(if not all) are dependent on our active participation with the prophecy to bring It to pass.
    ?

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    Ezekiel 3:16 At the end of seven days the word of the Lord came to me: 17 "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 18 When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[b] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself.

    20 "Again, when a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before them, they will die. Since you did not warn them, they will die for their sin. The righteous things that person did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous person not to sin and they do not sin, they will surely live because they took warning, and you will have saved yourself.
    Again, how do we exegesis this and come to the conclusion that "many personal prophecies(if not all) are dependent on our active participation with the prophecy to bring It to pass"? Neither Is 1:19 nor Ez 3:16-21 are even prophesies as such are they, let alone personal ones.

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    So who is dependent of the will of God coming to pass in your life. It's not a one sided thing. We must agree with and work through what God has told us. If it's a Joseph prison for a while before our prophecy comes to pass then so be it. If you missed God's will at 53 years old and went your own way then God is not responsible for you being out of the will of God for your life. All of the correct theology in the world cannot get back lost time being in the wrong place for our life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post
    So who is dependent of the will of God coming to pass in your life. It's not a one sided thing. We must agree with and work through what God has told us. If it's a Joseph prison for a while before our prophecy comes to pass then so be it. If you missed God's will at 53 years old and went your own way then God is not responsible for you being out of the will of God for your life. All of the correct theology in the world cannot get back lost time being in the wrong place for our life.
    True, I'm out of the will every time I sin, which can be often.

    But we're not talking about the general will of God here are we? What we have is a case of someone saying "I am speaking on behalf of God; under authority of God; the exact words of God; which God has said will come to pass".

    And anyway, in a genuine prophesy God is aware of the timeline. In Gen 15 we read, "Then God said to Abram, "Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed for four hundred years. But I will also judge the nation whom they will serve, and afterward they will come out with many possessions" and it happened as God said.

    Claiming to speak on behalf of God is a serious matter LionHeart. A very serious matter. In OT times it was "you lie, you die". We would be wise to take heed of that before we speak; and especially before we listen, because a lot of people who claim to be prophets have proven that they're false prophets. They're lucky to still be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I was just talking to a friend about this at lunch today. There are a few prophets who I believer really are, and one of them calls out other profits (not by name but you know who they are) when they're wrong and asks why they don't come clean but stay silent. One in particular that was on FOX said this thing would end in about a month when it first started, and he was wrong, but has never brought it up again to my knowledge and this other prophet called him out, though not by name. This prophet I like has said unequivocally that Trump will win, and has shared many visions and dreams about it. But if Trump loses, I don't want to hear any excuses from him. Just man up and say you were wrong. Of course I believe Trump will win, but just sayin'. :)
    Who are you referring to ?

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    Who are you referring to ?
    Prophet Neveradmityou'rewrong

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    There is a Joel 2 outpouring of prophecies, dreams and visions right now, expect much more.

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    I am not in favor of false predictive prophecies being left unchallenged. However some Calvinists do not understand that many personal prophecies(if not all) are dependent on our active participation with the prophecy to bring It to pass. A prophet once gave a man a "Word" that he had a Pastoral call on his life to eventually shepherd a flock of believers. Many who knew this man agreed that he had a great potential for ministry. But the man would never let Biblical discipline rule his life and died from a drug overdose. Did the prophet fail to see this ? The prophetic Word would never be fulfilled unless there was obedience to the written Word. So a Calvinist would say this was the will of God and the prophecy was never intended to be fulfilled. That is utter nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Prophet Neveradmityou'rewrong
    No, the prophet whom Fuego likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Who are you referring to ?
    Jeremiah Johnson. And I really like him. And he's not the only one that has said God has shown them Trump is winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Jeremiah Johnson. And I really like him. And he's not the only one that has said God has shown them Trump is winning.
    The brother was mentored by Loren Sandford. He preaches with fire in his bones and brings a solid word. JJ took a month out of the spotlight recently to recharge in the Lord and in response to other prophets he discerned were wrong. Jeremiah I listen to.

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