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    Lightbulb Brilliant Analysis By Ben Shapiro: "Why Hillary and Obama Prefer Islam to Christianity"

    I thought that this was one of the most astute and articulate analysis I've seen in a while:

    On Tuesday, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the American woman most responsible for the current refugee crisis in the Middle East, blasted Republicans for not wanting to accept unvetted Syrian Muslim refugees in the aftermath of last week's Paris terror attacks.

    She tweeted:

    We've seen a lot of hateful rhetoric from the GOP. But the idea that we'd turn away refugees because of religion is a new low. -H

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) November 17, 2015

    This, to be sure, is odd. Hillary decrying hateful rhetoric smacks of irony – she despises Republicans so much that she labeled them her enemies during the first Demoratic debate. Furthermore, Hillary is no fighter for religious freedom. In April, she told the Women in the World Summit that "deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed" to allow for abortion. And in the aftermath of the Supreme Court's egregious same-sex marriage decision in June, Hillary explicitly called for the government to force churches to sanction homosexuality, explaining, "Our work won't be finished until every American can not only marry, but live, work, pray, learn and raise a family free from discrimination and prejudice." Pray – as in attend church "free from discrimination and prejudice."

    But she's sure hot and bothered about what she terms discrimination against Muslim refugees. This isn't particularly surprising – the entire left has a peculiar soft spot for Islam.

    That seems weird, given Islamic countries' fundamental rejection of leftist values ranging from same-sex marriage to abortion to women driving. But it isn't so weird when considered in the context of Marxist philosophy, which sees Islam not as a religious philosophy of its own, but as a sort of bizarre cultural outgrowth of poverty. Impoverished people believe weird things, say the Marxists; if we just gave ISIS jobs, they'd stop all this nonsense and start behaving like members of the ACLU. Leftists see Islam not as an ideological force converting millions, but as a knee-jerk response to lack of basic living standards.

    In fact, leftists see all religion this way: as the refuge of the weakminded underclass. As Marx wrote, "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." Barack Obama agrees: as he said back in 2008, poor people "get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them."

    The view that all religious practice is essentially the domain of the exploited would cut in favor of seeing all religious practices as equally worthy of dismissal.

    But the left prefers Islam to Christianity. They'll fight against anyone drawing pictures of Mohammed, but they'll lose their minds if Christians complain about an "artist" soaking a statue of Jesus in urine.

    Why do leftists treat Christianity and Islam differently, if both are merely chimerical responses to the vicissitudes of life? Because leftists see Christianity as the creator of Islam's rise, and Christians as the victimizers of Muslims. The Obama State Department won't recognize Christians as victims of incipient Muslim genocide in the Middle East, but President Obama will equate ISIS violence in 2015 with the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. President Obama believes, like many on the left, that Western civilization was founded in racism, sexism, **********, and other bigotry – and that Christianity, as its wellspring, provided that impetus.

    Furthermore, Obama believes that Western civilization has exploited the rest of the world, and that it therefore bears culpability for the poverty that gave rise to the Islamic wave. Muslims are benighted victims of poverty; Christianity made them victims of poverty in the first place. Christianity thus bears blood guilt for the sins of Islam, but Islam bears none of its own. As Dinesh D'Souza puts it, Obama is an anti-colonialist and believes "that the rich countries got rich by looting the poor countries, and that within the rich countries, plutocratic and corporate elites continue to exploit ordinary citizens." Taken one step further, those rich countries – Christian countries – exploited non-Christian countries, impoverishing them and opening them to the opium of Islam.

    How else to explain the left's romance with Islam and simultaneous dismissal of Christianity? How else to explain the left's preoccupation with allowing Muslim refugees into the Christianity-founded West while demanding nothing of Islamic countries which are murdering Christians en masse?

    Hillary Clinton says it's hateful for Western countries to discriminate in choosing refugees based on religious philosophy. It's far more hateful to suggest that Christianity must bow and scrape before Islam, particularly when Islamic terrorists target non-Muslims the world over.

    Ben Shapiro is Senior Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News, Editor-in-Chief of DailyWire.com, and The New York Times bestselling author, most recently, of the book, The People vs. Barack Obama: The Criminal Case Against The Obama Administration (Threshold Editions, June 10, 2014). Follow Ben Shapiro on Twitter @benshapiro.

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    he's a young guy too!

    It never fails to amaze, and amuse, me that the hard left can't see they do EXACTLY what they accuse the conservatives of doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    he's a young guy too!

    It never fails to amaze, and amuse, me that the hard left can't see they do EXACTLY what they accuse the conservatives of doing.
    I am not amazed, they are so blinded by their hatred of opposing viewpoints and their belief that most people are too stupid to make their own decisions and we need the wise liberals to think for us. I have almost always seen conservatives willing to dialogue with those of different views, where as liberals will defend your opinion as long as it is the same as theirs. Sad but true.

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    Yep, those that claim to be tolerant are the most intolerant bunch around...

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    Well, the interesting thing is that Ben is a Jew if I'm not mistaken. But I think his analysis is so right-on, so astute. IMO, it explicitly explains the mindset of Obama and lefties in general. The Muslim "brown skinned" person is not in the state they are in because of their own religious culture of death, vengeance, etc.....they are victims of the west and/or Israel. That is why when the progressives play into this horrific victim mentality and actually downplay or excuse it, everyone pays a terrible price.

    The progressive mind is very dangerous.

    But there is hope! The technocrats, the faux progressive "church", the anti-Christ and the beast, will have all the answers in the years to come!

    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    he's a young guy too!

    It never fails to amaze, and amuse, me that the hard left can't see they do EXACTLY what they accuse the conservatives of doing.

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    Gee! And you get a spiffy tatoo from them too!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    Gee! And you get a spiffy tatoo from them too!!
    I guess those that believe in OSAS will go ahead and get the mark of thew beast cause after all, they think it's not possible for them to not go to Heaven.

    God says anyone taking the mark of the beast will not go to Heaven...

    Rev 14:9-12
    And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus

    OSAS is one of THE most dangerous of all false doctrines modern day Christians embrace!

    It's some of satan's best work because it gets people to where they ignore God's written Word... and that is what satan is after.

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    it's not a false doctrine.. just because you don't think it's accurate, doesn't mean you're right. You just can't help but make snarky remarks, can you?

    You can say all the crap you want to about not being secure in God's promise of eternal life, and I'm sorry for you.. You will continue to think you have to save yourself, I'll believe He saved/saves me.

    I'll believe Him, not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    You will continue to think you have to save yourself
    That's laughable!

    Yes, God saves us... but our responsibility is to allow Him to be our Lord and to allow Him to live and walk in us. (2 Corinthians 6:16,17)

    If we deny the Lord by not allowing Him to lead us... we are walking in the flesh and as such we have rejected His Covenant

    If one remains in that condition without confession and forsaking their sin (Proverbs 28:13, 1 John 1:9), they will burn.

    Revelation 3:5
    He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

    "Overcome" here is walking in the Spirit... the NT contains numerous warnings concerning what happens to those that walk after the flesh... they die!

    These are the ones Jesus will have to blot out their names because they refused to walk in a relationship with Him... just because one gives lip service does not mean they are saved.

    Matthew 7:21-23
    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


    OSAS is a myth, and is one that will cause some to go to hell when they thought they were saved... all because they did not allow the Lord to be the very first thing in their life... to be in close personal relationship with Him!

    One thing about this... in the end we will see that some of the saying of Jesus that many like to ignore... are true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    I guess those that believe in OSAS will go ahead and get the mark of thew beast cause after all, they think it's not possible for them to not go to Heaven.

    God says anyone taking the mark of the beast will not go to Heaven...

    Rev 14:9-12
    And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus

    OSAS is one of THE most dangerous of all false doctrines modern day Christians embrace!

    It's some of satan's best work because it gets people to where they ignore God's written Word... and that is what satan is after.
    Some would say that Dispensationalism is false and crazy just like OSAS.

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