Thread: Jeremiah Wright: 'Jesus was a Palestinian'

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Originally Posted by Susan

I can't tell if he's evil, or just stupid. He's probably a little bit of both.

Originally Posted by CatchyUsername

Where it falls even shorter is that Jesus is Jewish.

He seems to be employing a popular paradigm that turns the tables on Israel and places them in the opposite role, that of Nazis persecuting Palestinians or the Roman empire persecuting Palestinians. With Jews=Nazis it sort of erases history on the holocaust and recasts the Jews in the opposite role, there is a strong anti-semitic current behind that one. Mr whatever-it-was is probably just latching onto that kind of thinking without coming from that specific direction but I wouldn't know. Maybe he does come from that direction.

I think it's important to note that criticizing the conduct of the Israeli government is not an anti-semitic action.

Originally Posted by njtom

I think it's important to note that criticizing the conduct of the Israeli government is not an anti-semitic action.

Most of what is behind the criticism is completely and wholly anti-semitic, though. After the holocaust, Israel pretty much had the support of the world. When the (boat) The Exodus, tried to take holocaust survivors out of DPP camps and into Israel (then Palestine), and the Brits stormed the boat, the world was in shock and disbelief. Fast-forward some years, and the world turned it's back on Israel once again.

See, the Palestinian Muslims believe that once they have "conquered" territory, it is theirs for all eternity. So them leaving their homes voluntarily, and going to war with settling Israelies in '48 wasn't such a smart move, was it, njtom? Fastforward again to the war of 68, the intifada that started in the early 2000s, etc.....and what we have is a SPIRITUAL FORCE that is in operation, and has been since the beginning of time.

Palestinians have never been, "partners for peace", and those of Arab/Palestinian descent currently live and work in Israel, living peacefully with Israelis. The lying, dishonest, narrative that comes from terrorists is not to be trusted, but it seems that progressives actually believe lies.

That said, is Israel perfect? No. But they are under siege by terrorists. And if you think that Palestinians want peace, they don't. They had a chance to get almost every bit of land they wanted, and they rejected it. They employ dishonest rhetoric in order to garner support from the West, and the West is duped every, single, time. They want to "push Israel into the sea".

Originally Posted by njtom

I think it's important to note that criticizing the conduct of the Israeli government is not an anti-semitic action.

Not in and of itself but there are many who oppose them with cultic fervor, the effective opposite of the most adamantly all-out pro-Israel religionists whether those are Christian or Jewish.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Not in and of itself but there are many who oppose them with cultic fervor, the effective opposite of the most adamantly all-out pro-Israel religionists whether those are Christian or Jewish.

Agreed.

The vast majority of those Palestinians who left their land in 1948 (the descendants of whom continue to suffer in refugee camps), did not leave voluntarily; they were forced out by Israel. And those who left did not give up their land in a legal sense.

It is agreed that current Palestinian terrorist behavior does not encourage Israel to make peace with them. No sane nation would make peace with people who are bombing them.

If Israel were primarily concerned about preserving its national security, I can definitely see them engaging in a military occupation of the West Bank, at least as long as Palestinians continue to conduct terrorist attacks.

But Israel is doing much more than a military occupation; they are building permanent civilian settlements, on land allotted to the Palestinians by the U.N. in 1947. The fact that they have been building these settlements (for decades) suggests that they have no interest in a two-state solution; rather, their goal is the permanent annexation of the West Bank.

Originally Posted by Colonel

The context is apparently the times coming after he leaves them. Which ties in with Paul's talking about how proper authorities carry the sword in order to punish the wrongdoer and honor the one who does what is right.

Never mind...don't want to hijack the thread

Wait just a minute! njtom? You are seriously wrong on nearly every point! Israel did not force out the vast majority of the so called refugees. There is no land that was designated as Palestinian by the UN in 1947. The Arabs who left in 1948 did not own the land they left, it was owned by absentee landlords or by the Turkish government. The illegal occupation of land designated for a Jewish homeland took place in 1948 when Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon attacked and occupied. The Jordanians retained control of the illegally occupied land until 1967. They even went so far as to annex the land to Jordan but their annexation was not ratified or recognized except by Great Britain and Pakistan. Even so, Jordan did not allow private ownership of any of the land they occupied. Let's get some of the basic facts straight here.

Originally Posted by Tehilah Ba'Aretz

Wait just a minute! njtom? You are seriously wrong on nearly every point! Israel did not force out the vast majority of the so called refugees. There is no land that was designated as Palestinian by the UN in 1947. The Arabs who left in 1948 did not own the land they left, it was owned by absentee landlords or by the Turkish government. The illegal occupation of land designated for a Jewish homeland took place in 1948 when Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon attacked and occupied. The Jordanians retained control of the illegally occupied land until 1967. They even went so far as to annex the land to Jordan but their annexation was not ratified or recognized except by Great Britain and Pakistan. Even so, Jordan did not allow private ownership of any of the land they occupied. Let's get some of the basic facts straight here.

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