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    Question Democrats Should go After Ted Cruz

    Democrats' shocking victory in the Alabama Senate special election undoubtedly has raised their potential list of seats they might win. If they can win in the Deep South, they can win anywhere.

    High on the list of reach targets is Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is up for re-election in 2018. Hillary Clinton did quite well in Texas, only losing by 9 points (better than she did in Iowa) — as compared to nearly 28 points in Alabama. What's more, Democrats have a solid candidate in the form of Rep. Beto O'Rourke from El Paso.

    Victory is a real possibility.

    It is true, of course, that Cruz does not have any molestation scandals hanging over his head. But almost unbelievably, his approval rating is actually lower in Texas than Roy Moore's is in Alabama.

    Figuring out just why this is necessarily involves a bit of guesswork, as there isn't a lot of polling on the question. But one factor is undoubtedly Cruz's performance at the Republican National Convention, where he pointedly refused to endorse then-candidate Donald Trump in a speech — and then later came around and supported him anyway. Thus did he alienate both the Republican rank-and-file, who love Trump, and the minority of anti-Trump conservatives.

    Some of it's probably just Cruz himself, though. This might sound rather petty, but it's simply undeniable that Cruz is one of the most detestable people ever to hold national office in the United States — not in terms of actual bad actions, though God knows Cruz has his share of those, but in purely personal terms. He's a pathological showboater, who has repeatedly undermined the party to boost his own profile, like when he deliberately provoked a government shutdown over repealing ObamaCare in 2013 that the party leadership knew it could not win, then cynically whipped up the base against sellout RINOs in Washington when they lost. His personality is also just plain intolerable — he constantly exudes a smarmy, condescending, debate pedant miasma, like some fog machine programmed by a biochemist to produce maximum possible irritation.

    People who have known Cruz for a long time testify he's always been like this. And just like at Princeton, he drives almost everyone up the wall, inspiring unreasoning hatred among his Republican colleagues in the Senate. Indeed, one important factor behind Trump's primary victory was the party elite's bald refusal to countenance the fact that Cruz was their only realistic non-Trump candidate.
    http://theweek.com/articles/743119/d...after-ted-cruz

    I hadn’t realized Cruz was up for reelection next year. This should be interesting. Will he get his comeuppance for refusing to endorse President Trump until the eleventh hour? Should Texas Republicans support him or replace him with another Conservative candidate?

    A part of me wants him to suffer a little, but not to the point of a Democrat winning in his place. Just want him to sweat a little.

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    It is true, of course, that Cruz does not have any molestation scandals hanging over his head. But almost unbelievably, his approval rating is actually lower in Texas than Roy Moore's is in Alabama.
    That was the main thing I was going to say. And Moore still barely lost. I don't think he's in any danger in TX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    That was the main thing I was going to say. And Moore still barely lost. I don't think he's in any danger in TX.
    I guess that’s good news. lol
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    I like Sen Ted Cruz.

    Sadly, he was a target of the Trump team with some of the outlandish attacks against his him, his wife, and his dad.

    President Trump planted a lot of bad seed harassing his opponents during the election campaign and is reaping what he sowed.

    I mostly approve of Mr Trump's actions as president, but IMHO, he crossed the line repeatedly during his run for the Republican nomination.
    He alienated a lot of people that he needs the support of now. Some are slowly coming back to support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari View Post
    I like Sen Ted Cruz.

    Sadly, he was a target of the Trump team with some of the outlandish attacks against his him, his wife, and his dad.

    President Trump planted a lot of bad seed harassing his opponents during the election campaign and is reaping what he sowed.

    I mostly approve of Mr Trump's actions as president, but IMHO, he crossed the line repeatedly during his run for the Republican nomination.

    He alienated a lot of people that he needs the support of now. Some are slowly coming back to support him.

    "Reaping what he sowed? Really now? He's kept most of his campaign promises which Cruz or any of the other candidates would have never been able to pull off. Also, they would've caved in to the BULLYING of the Left as soon after they took office.

    Trump may not have been a choir boy but who ever is? I've never known a Presidential candidate to play fair during a campaign. And besides all that, Trump won't be bullied. That's one of the major qualities I love about this man. He can't be bought and he's doing a heck of a job as President.

    Yes, maybe he did alienate a few people, but even so, he got things done and that's what I expect my President to do. He's winning and millions are praying and cheering him on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    Democrats' shocking victory in the Alabama Senate special election undoubtedly has raised their potential list of seats they might win. If they can win in the Deep South, they can win anywhere.

    High on the list of reach targets is Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is up for re-election in 2018. Hillary Clinton did quite well in Texas, only losing by 9 points (better than she did in Iowa) — as compared to nearly 28 points in Alabama. What's more, Democrats have a solid candidate in the form of Rep. Beto O'Rourke from El Paso.

    Victory is a real possibility.

    It is true, of course, that Cruz does not have any molestation scandals hanging over his head. But almost unbelievably, his approval rating is actually lower in Texas than Roy Moore's is in Alabama.

    Figuring out just why this is necessarily involves a bit of guesswork, as there isn't a lot of polling on the question. But one factor is undoubtedly Cruz's performance at the Republican National Convention, where he pointedly refused to endorse then-candidate Donald Trump in a speech — and then later came around and supported him anyway. Thus did he alienate both the Republican rank-and-file, who love Trump, and the minority of anti-Trump conservatives.

    Some of it's probably just Cruz himself, though. This might sound rather petty, but it's simply undeniable that Cruz is one of the most detestable people ever to hold national office in the United States — not in terms of actual bad actions, though God knows Cruz has his share of those, but in purely personal terms. He's a pathological showboater, who has repeatedly undermined the party to boost his own profile, like when he deliberately provoked a government shutdown over repealing ObamaCare in 2013 that the party leadership knew it could not win, then cynically whipped up the base against sellout RINOs in Washington when they lost. His personality is also just plain intolerable — he constantly exudes a smarmy, condescending, debate pedant miasma, like some fog machine programmed by a biochemist to produce maximum possible irritation.

    People who have known Cruz for a long time testify he's always been like this. And just like at Princeton, he drives almost everyone up the wall, inspiring unreasoning hatred among his Republican colleagues in the Senate. Indeed, one important factor behind Trump's primary victory was the party elite's bald refusal to countenance the fact that Cruz was their only realistic non-Trump candidate.
    http://theweek.com/articles/743119/d...after-ted-cruz

    I hadn't realized Cruz was up for reelection next year. This should be interesting. Will he get his comeuppance for refusing to endorse President Trump until the eleventh hour? Should Texas Republicans support him or replace him with another Conservative candidate?

    A part of me wants him to suffer a little, but not to the point of a Democrat winning in his place. Just want him to sweat a little.

    What say ye?
    HE and Trump have since made peace and in fact he is the only GOP candidate that Steve Bannon has decided not to primary so no comeuppance necessary

    That said his refusal to endorse Trump at the time was understandable. I didn't endorse Trump either until much later . May good things about Trump but Trump can indeed be a jerk ..

    I am still believing for a Miracle in Roy Moores case. I believe the guy was railroaded big time .. some news reports I am seeing out there suggest that Military Ballots when counted may tip the election in his favor

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    HE and Trump have since made peace and in fact he is the only GOP candidate that Steve Bannon has decided not to primary so no comeuppance necessary

    That said his refusal to endorse Trump at the time was understandable. I didn't endorse Trump either until much later . May good things about Trump but Trump can indeed be a jerk ..
    I didn't endorse him either, as you know until much later, but thats no excuse for a sitting senator of the same Party not to. He put his hurt feelings before the good of his constituents, so IMHO he was being a jerk as much as President Trump.

    I am still believing for a Miracle in Roy Moores case. I believe the guy was railroaded big time .. some news reports I am seeing out there suggest that Military Ballots when counted may tip the election in his favor
    I read there were voters coming in from neighboring states who voted for Jones, giving him the victory. That's why I'm strongly in favor of mandatory voter ID laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    HE and Trump have since made peace and in fact he is the only GOP candidate that Steve Bannon has decided not to primary so no comeuppance necessary

    That said his refusal to endorse Trump at the time was understandable. I didn't endorse Trump either until much later . May good things about Trump but Trump can indeed be a jerk ..

    I am still believing for a Miracle in Roy Moores case. I believe the guy was railroaded big time .. some news reports I am seeing out there suggest that Military Ballots when counted may tip the election in his favor
    I've been hearing some chatter that they intentionally allowed the election to be thrown in order to nail the fraudsters that compromised it. Also that Roy Moore will in fact ultimately be declared the winner or a new election will take place.

    It's not likely at all that Alabama went demo..., not at all.

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    I think one thing that most people have forgotten is how Ted Cruz, or at least the people running his campaign, stabbed Ben Carson in the back big time. Add that to his speech in which he almost dissuaded people not to support Trump at Trump's rally when Trump was gracious enough to give him opportunity. All of that being said, I do not want to see Cruz get any "comeuppance". If I reevaluate my life there is no doubt that I can find times that I have done similar things to my own shame. If I want Ted to reap what he has sown then I may as well ask God to take His mercy and grace from me as well for the things I have done.

    But like Val-W and BAP, I was a late comer on the Trump Train. I stuck by Carson to the bitter end and did not want to see Trump win the Republican nomination. But when he did I decided that I had to support him over the alternative. Seeing the fantastic job he has done so far I am glad I did.

    Yeah, like many others I wish he would not act or talk a certain way, but still glad this guy is in office than Hillary Clinton or most of the others who tried to run on as Republicans, except for Carson. Carson is the only one I would have liked to have won besides Trump.
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    I've been hearing some chatter that they intentionally allowed the election to be thrown in order to nail the fraudsters that compromised it. Also that Roy Moore will in fact ultimately be declared the winner or a new election will take place.

    It's not likely at all that Alabama went demo..., not at all.
    This is one conspiracy theory that I hope is right.
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