Thread: Democrats Should go After Ted Cruz

Originally Posted by BAP

I am still believing for a Miracle in Roy Moores case. I believe the guy was railroaded big time .. some news reports I am seeing out there suggest that Military Ballots when counted may tip the election in his favor

Here are some of my thoughts and you and others can critique them if you wish:

First, I think that after some of the victories we received last year and earlier this year, we have become a little arrogant. At first we were praying and seeking God and God intervened. But, as seems to be the pattern with us, we become arrogant and prideful and forget that God gave us these victories and we don't pray as much anymore. We begin "talking smack" and try to do the "in your face" thing with the liberals. Since we no longer depend on God then God takes His hand off the thing and we get embarrassed and start wondering, "what happened?"

We need to keep getting these victories by PRAYER and not by thinking we are now indestructible.

Second, I hear too much fatalistic language used with the folks among the Moore camp. Words like, "God is in control" just doesn't cut it. How about "God, please TAKE control" as we all pray and use the authority that God DELEGATED. I think too many conservatives lean too much towards their Calvinistic fatalism.

Just my thoughts as I watched all of this. We need GOD and not our so called political prowess to win these elections. The devil is using all of his resources and any discerning Christian can see how obvious that this battle is SPIRITUAL and not physical.

My sentiments exactly brother! You're right, I'd forgotten about his backstabbing Dr. Carson, which President Trump did as well. Had I remembered it, I would've had to work EXTRA hard at not wanting him to be recompensed.

Originally Posted by victoryword

I think one thing that most people have forgotten is how Ted Cruz, or at least the people running his campaign, stabbed Ben Carson in the back big time. Add that to his speech in which he almost dissuaded people not to support Trump at Trump's rally when Trump was gracious enough to give him opportunity. All of that being said, I do not want to see Cruz get any "comeuppance". If I reevaluate my life there is no doubt that I can find times that I have done similar things to my own shame. If I want Ted to reap what he has sown then I may as well ask God to take His mercy and grace from me as well for the things I have done.

But like Val-W and BAP, I was a late comer on the Trump Train. I stuck by Carson to the bitter end and did not want to see Trump win the Republican nomination. But when he did I decided that I had to support him over the alternative. Seeing the fantastic job he has done so far I am glad I did.

Yeah, like many others I wish he would not act or talk a certain way, but still glad this guy is in office than Hillary Clinton or most of the others who tried to run on as Republicans, except for Carson. Carson is the only one I would have liked to have won besides Trump.

I partially agree, but I believe Christians are praying more because we were warned early on not to stop praying when we began seeing the victories.

I believe it’s mostly the non-Christian Conservatives & nominal believers that’s talking smack and acting arrogant.

As for myself, I use to only pray for our governing authorities a couple of times a week, because I am a part of 3 prayer groups that pray for our nation, and about to start another one through my ministry VWM.

However, I began to pray everyday after my spiritual mentors admonished us to do so and continue until Jesus’ return, which was a challenge at first seeing how my prayer list is already about a mile long!

Originally Posted by victoryword

Here are some of my thoughts and you and others can critique them if you wish:

First, I think that after some of the victories we received last year and earlier this year, we have become a little arrogant. At first we were praying and seeking God and God intervened. But, as seems to be the pattern with us, we become arrogant and prideful and forget that God gave us these victories and we don't pray as much anymore. We begin "talking smack" and try to do the "in your face" thing with the liberals. Since we no longer depend on God then God takes His hand off the thing and we get embarrassed and start wondering, "what happened?"

We need to keep getting these victories by PRAYER and not by thinking we are now indestructible.

Second, I hear too much fatalistic language used with the folks among the Moore camp. Words like, "God is in control" just doesn't cut it. How about "God, please TAKE control" as we all pray and use the authority that God DELEGATED. I think too many conservatives lean too much towards their Calvinistic fatalism.

Just my thoughts as I watched all of this. We need GOD and not our so called political prowess to win these elections. The devil is using all of his resources and any discerning Christian can see how obvious that this battle is SPIRITUAL and not physical.

Originally Posted by Valiant Woman

My sentiments exactly brother! You’re right, I’d forgotten about his backstabbing Dr. Carson, which President Trump did as well. Had I remembered it, I would’ve had to work EXTRA hard at not wanting him to be recompensed.

I sorta kinda liked Ted Cruz before that. Lost all respect for him afterwards.

Originally Posted by Valiant Woman

I partially agree, but I believe Christians are praying more because we were warned early on not to stop praying when we began seeing the victories.

I believe it’s mostly the non-Christian Conservatives & nominal believers that’s talking smack and acting arrogant.

As for myself, I use to only pray for our governing authorities a couple of times a week, because I am a part of 3 prayer groups that pray for our nation, and about to start another one through my ministry VWM.

However, I began to pray everyday after my spiritual mentors admonished us to do so and continue until Jesus’ return, which was a challenge at first seeing how my prayer list is already about a mile long!

EXCELLENT POINTS!!! Not every conservative is a Christian and not everyone who claims to be a Christian is born again. And when it comes to praying for our government, your post lets me know that I need to step up on my own game rather than handing out critiques to others

Originally Posted by John

Trump SAID a lot of things but I have to believe that the other candidates for the nomination, most of whom are career politicians with down in the dirt campaign mangers DID a lot of things to Trump that will never see the light of day, they play dirty, very dirty. Trump triumphed over what, 15 or 20 swamp critters and their minions?

Agreed. Furthermore, only God could have helped Trump overcome these odd. Even with me, I only started supporting him AFTER he became the nominee because I felt that he was the least of two evils. So not only did he have a lot of dirty opposition, he also had less than enthusiastic conservatives wanting him to be the nominee. I am now convinced that the Lord chose this man.

Originally Posted by John

Ben Carson is definitely not a swamp critter but I think Trump had to take on all comers equally.

Don't agree with you on that. I think you can win without attempting to destroy a good guy. But that is now in the past. Trump and Carson re working together and we got two (Pence makes three) of some of the finest men governing our nation.