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    Does God establish rulers?

    I created a new thread to allow focussed discussion on whether or not God puts rulers in place, good or bad.
    Moved these posts out of FO's "Goodbye" thread.

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    I am a Republican but not a Trump republican. He is a horse of a different color. What he is? Anybodies guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    I am a Republican but not a Trump republican. He is a horse of a different color. What he is? Anybodies guess.
    He's God's choice for this season.

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    Also the peoples choice, he is a populist, not a party puppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    He's God's choice for this season.
    I hope you're right Sis. - Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post
    I hope you're right Sis. - Time will tell.
    Wellll....as much as I dislike our current prime minister up here, and as much as we prayed for him to not win, here he is. I have to believe God put him in place. Man, he's making a mess. Raising taxes and favouring illegal immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    Wellll....as much as I dislike our current prime minister up here, and as much as we prayed for him to not win, here he is. I have to believe God put him in place. Man, he's making a mess. Raising taxes and favouring illegal immigrants.
    Are you a Calvinist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Are you a Calvinist?
    No. What does that have to do with my post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    No. What does that have to do with my post?
    Hi AJ. My guess is that Nikos' point is that under free will doctrine, the people of any nation are free to choose their leader, they are free to choose rightly or wrongly, and God won't necessarily override a wrongful choice. Therefore, the fact that a particular person has been chosen by a group of people to be their leader does not imply that God put him in that position. In other words, the "peoples' choice" is not necessarily "God's choice."

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Hi AJ. My guess is that Nikos' point is that under free will doctrine, the people of any nation are free to choose their leader, they are free to choose rightly or wrongly, and God won't necessarily override a wrongful choice. Therefore, the fact that a particular person has been chosen by a group of people to be their leader does not imply that God put him in that position. In other words, the "peoples' choice" is not necessarily "God's choice."
    i.e Saul

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Hi AJ. My guess is that Nikos' point is that under free will doctrine, the people of any nation are free to choose their leader, they are free to choose rightly or wrongly, and God won't necessarily override a wrongful choice. Therefore, the fact that a particular person has been chosen by a group of people to be their leader does not imply that God put him in that position. In other words, the "peoples' choice" is not necessarily "God's choice."
    Ah. Ok. Thank you. Didn't know that's part of Calvinism.

    I guess that my wording should have been more along the lines of "God allowed him to be placed in power"?

    I DO tend to be in agreement with Lance Wallnau and the word that he's Gods wreckin ball, and will be used like God used Cyrus.

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