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    EPA Chief Backs Approach to Science That Could Upend Global Warming 'Consensus'


    EPA Chief Backs Approach to Science That Could Upend Global Warming ‘Consensus’
    "Why would any scientific organization object to an independent look at the claims of the climate establishment?”
    By Michael Bastasch Published on June 9, 2017
    https://stream.org/trumps-epa-chief-...ing-consensus/

    Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Scott Pruitt reignited a long simmering debate over a method of scientific inquiry that could upset the supposed “consensus” on man-made global warming.

    Pruitt supported a “red team-blue team” set up to test climate science in an interview with Breitbart’s Joel Pollak on Monday. Pruitt was inspired by an oped by theoretical physicist Steven Koonin, but others have been pushing this idea as well.

    “If truth is what we are all after, why would any scientific organization object to an independent look at the claims of the climate establishment?” climate scientist John Christy told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

    Christy has testified on the value of “red teams” for climate science many times in the past decade. This time, however, environmentalists and “consensus” scientists are worried Congress will take him seriously.

    Red teams would challenge blue teams on global warming hypotheses on “what do we know, what don’t we know, and what risk does it pose to health, the United States, and the world,” Pruitt told Breitbart.

    The military commonly using this method to challenge strategies and improve their overall effectiveness. Many climate scientists, however, say it has no place in their field....




    ...Consensus scientists say the red team setup could manipulate public understanding of the science, giving a false impression of uncertainty and delay action on global warming. Skeptics, like Christy, say the other side is afraid the method will expose the weakness of the supposed “consensus” on global warming.

    “My own analysis concerning 102 climate model runs is as clear as it can be — the theory has failed the simplest of scientific tests,” Christy said. “None of the august scientific societies crunched through the huge volumes of model output and observational data to perform such tests.”

    “In the normative scientific method, when our theory fails, we are supposed to go back and modify or reject the theory and test again,” Christy said. “In this modern way of doing science, as best I can tell, the proponents of a failed theory simply yell louder, schedule marches on Washington, and attempt to quash any dissent.”

    Consensus scientists say peer-review works just fine, but skeptics point out the problems with climate models and many of their predictions. In fact, many articles have been written about the problems with scientific journals and peer-review.

    Climate scientist Roger Pielke, Sr. says peer-review has become politicized, where “gate keeping” plays a role in who gets published and who doesn’t. Skeptics are usually get the wrong end of that deal...




    ...“Claiming that the truth has already been determined regarding ‘climate change,’ and thus Red Teams are not needed, is an argument made by someone who has not examined the theory,” he said.




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    Well the thing is though, this is Trump's appointee and the mass of those that back the climate change theory will just use that to try and debunk him. Nobody on that side is going to listen to anything he has to say or give him any credibility.

    ...“Claiming that the truth has already been determined regarding ‘climate change,’ and thus Red Teams are not needed, is an argument made by someone who has not examined the theory,” he said.

    Which is exactly what they will say anyway.

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    The gatekeeping thing is a well known problem with the scientific community since before climate change became an issue.

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