Thread: Recounts barely making dent in election results; Trump gains in Wisconsin

Statewide recounts in key 2016 battlegrounds are proceeding in fits and starts -- but doing little to change the math behind Donald Trump's victory.

In Wisconsin, one of three states where Green Party candidate Jill Stein has sought a fresh tabulation, the president-elect has even gained on Hillary Clinton.

The push for a recount in Pennsylvania, meanwhile, is awaiting a federal court's OK, and a similar effort in Michigan has run into new judicial turbulence. But while Trump narrowly defeated Clinton in all three states, the numbers trickling in look unlikely to call into question the Nov. 8 results.

"In any election, the actual change in the margin of votes is very, very low," Drew Spencer Penrose, legal director at FairVote, told FoxNews.com. "For people hoping for a change in results, I wouldn't hold my breath."

Here's a rundown of what is happening in each state:

Wisconsin

With the Wisconsin Election Commission working since last Thursday – when Stein paid $3.5 million for the recount after alleging reports of fraud – there has been little change so far to the unofficial results reported on Election Day. Trump won the state by 22,000 votes over Clinton.

In a twist, Trump is gaining.

By Wednesday morning, Trump had widened his victory margin over Clinton in Wisconsin by 146 votes, with 23 of the state's 72 counties having finished their recounts as of Tuesday. In those counties, Trump gained 105 votes and Clinton dropped 41 votes.

Stein, who received about 1 percent of the vote in the states under question, said her intent was not to help Clinton, but to verify the accuracy of the count as she believed the votes were susceptible to computer hacking.

"We're not finding any problems with the machines," Reid Magney, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin Elections Commission, told FoxNews.com. "The Stein campaign wanted a recount because they thought there was some problems with our machines and that was not the case."

Whatever Stein's reasons, it appears the recount has been more of a help than a hindrance to Trump, who saw the number of votes for him go up in several counties...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...wisconsin.html

Hardy har har

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

Hardy har har

Originally Posted by fuego

...Whatever Stein’s reasons, it appears the recount has been more of a help than a hindrance to Trump, who saw the number of votes for him go up in several counties...

The same thing was happening in Michigan too:

Michigan Recount Results Day 1: Problems Found in Clinton Strongholds

-The Michigan recount finished its first day, and there were already reports that half of Detroit’s votes might not be recounted, as well as other problems with ballots.

The reason so many Detroit ballots could get left out of the recount: The number of ballots listed in poll books is not the same as the totals given on machine printouts...

http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/michig...-county-rules/


At first I was ticked about the recounts being allowed but now I'm wondering if maybe they should've gone through with it to expose more of the voter fraud perpetrated by those giving Hillary fake votes. However a federal judge did halt the Michigan recount earlier today:

Federal judge halts Michigan presidential election recount

http://www.freep.com/story/news/loca...ount/95110008/

Originally Posted by Valiant Woman

She said she wants to "test the voting system." Then she should use her own money to do it. Another wake-up call to voters and taxpayers that liberals don't care about them. It'll cost $5,000,000 to complete the recount, and they want "we the people" to foot the bill. Get outta here!

Did you catch this post in another thread? Now you have to wonder if recounts were done in those other states would Trump have won by even larger margins:

Originally Posted by fuego

Stein has insisted that she is not looking to swing the election to one candidate over another and only wants to be certain the votes were legitimate.

But then why is Stein not requesting recounts in states Hillary Clinton won by smaller margins than Donald Trump won Michigan, which was finally called for Trump on Friday, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?

Trump won Pennsylvania by near 78,000 votes, Michigan by about 10,000 votes and Wisconsin by around 27,000 votes.

By contrast Clinton won New Hampshire by a razor-thin margin of less than 3,000 votes, Nevada by about 26,000 votes and Minnesota by less than 44,000 votes.

Why is Stein not interested in recounting those states?

It’s merely another tactic by the left to undermine the election of Trump...

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/...#ixzz4RPoYtRGi

http://livingfaithforum.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post52407

Is someone moving for a recount in the states where Clinton won by a small margin ? It would only be fair.

I sure hope this somehow definitively shows some Democratic fraud and that really gets reported.

And this from Time:

Why Jill Stein’s Recount Push is Bad News for Democrats

http://time.com/4592583/jill-stein-r...rats-liberals/


Crazy Town: Jill Stein Thinks People With Floppy Disks Could Have Corrupted Voting Machines

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattves...hines-n2256713