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    Obamacare- Scary

    Something to look forward to!

    Obama held all of this until his term was almost over. The fee also for Medicare goes up something close to $237 a month per person starting next year.

    IMPORTANT ACTION INFORMATION FOR NOVEMBER, 2016, VOTE

    THIS should be read by everyone, especially important to those over 75....... If you are younger, then it may apply to your relatives. Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under ObamaCare.

    If you don't read this, and do nothing about it, don't complain when it affects you or your loved ones! This is the second Judge to have read the Obama Care document comments. More highlights of Nancy's "pass it and then find out what's in the bill"! Show this to everyone nearing the ripe old age of 76. These are just a few of the things that we seniors are going to have to deal with which started in 2014.

    Even far left Democrats will not like these

    MEDICARE AT AGE 76, IMPORTANT PLEASE READ - ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THIS IS TRUE CAN DOWNLOAD THE NEW OBAMACARE AND LOOK UP THE PAGES MENTIONED. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING....

    You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor, it is treated as outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the iceberg for Obama Care.

    Just wait to see what else went into effect in 2014. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76, when you most need it most, you are NOT eligible for cancer treatment...

    * see page 272. What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember, she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can see what's in it." Well, here it is.
    Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL HB 3200 JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.

    Judge KITHIL of Marble Falls, TX highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200. Please read this...... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59. JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

    Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

    Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

    Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

    Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

    Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

    Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

    Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

    Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

    Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

    HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

    "Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.

    No wonder they did not see the need to read it....doesn't apply to them!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP TO WASHINGTON.

    ..... I don't know if we can do anything, but awareness helps.
    Ed Hume

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    I've taken a beating here on the forums over Canadian Health Care, but it's nothing like what Obama has done to you guys in the States. The more I hear, the more horrifying it is.

    In Canada, we have to make sure we have registered in the province we live in but other than that, we just go to the dr or hospital. Yes, some of the waiting times are long, even up to a year and a half, I've heard, for things like a knee or hip replacement, but emergency services are always a priority with no wait times.

    Obamacare is just insanity on steroids.

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    I have a health care plan that is out of this world!

    My Doctor (Doctor Jesus) is so great, that He actually took all my sickness and disease upon Himself so I would not have to have it... and He even sent the Holy Spirit to live inside me to force out the darkness that is the root cause of sickness and disease!

    Best part is, Doctor Jesus paid for it all, so there's no out of pocket expense... and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty... libery from what??? Whatever it is I need liberating from.

    As I understand it, I'm hearing not all Christians experience this health coverage.

    Maybe I'm just special and God really, really, really loves me or something... or, it could be that I started believing and walking in this (taking God's Word as alive, powerful, doing what He promised) and God was allowed to have residence in my life concerning health.
    Either way, my health care plan that is out of this world! Obamacare- Scary-b0212-gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    I have a health care plan that is out of this world!

    My Doctor (Doctor Jesus) is so great, that He actually took all my sickness and disease upon Himself so I would not have to have it... and He even sent the Holy Spirit to live inside me to force out the darkness that is the root cause of sickness and disease!

    Best part is, Doctor Jesus paid for it all, so there's no out of pocket expense... and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty... libery from what??? Whatever it is I need liberating from.

    As I understand it, I'm hearing not all Christians experience this health coverage.

    Maybe I'm just special and God really, really, really loves me or something... or, it could be that I started believing and walking in this (taking God's Word as alive, powerful, doing what He promised) and God was allowed to have residence in my life concerning health.
    Either way, my health care plan that is out of this world! Obamacare- Scary-b0212-gif
    In a Bible discussion last night the topic of Laodicea church came up..specifically how they became deceived by their wealth... I made a statement, that in America where there is so much medical knowledge and availability is it more likely that people eased using their faith in God to heal and replaced it with faith in the money and the medical profession to the point that when they need healing the most, when doctors are the least capable our faith is weak..

    I have mentioned this several times but it is worth repeating..in the little book 'Faith Or Presumption' Dr. Price states there came a time when he had to decided to trust God or not; to build his faith. he started with headaches...refusing to rely on pain medication and praying through to healing...He states it is a personal decision each person must make...

    America is very much like Laodecia in that most trust their wealth and are deceived because they believe the wealth was God's answer when instead it was Satan's snare. The wealth was not the issue..being deceived by it was.

    Also in America we see this snare gradually tightening...people are angry, frustrated, and feeling trapped because little by little we find the provision of the wealth being more and more limited...it was never to be trusted yet it was and now it's slipping away...

    I have said for years that we had better deliberately limit our trust in it and deliberately raise our trust in the Lord on purpose before we are forced to by the collapse of our nations economy and security which is coming...

    I read a story of a missionary and they had zero resources and had o trust the Lord every day for their food as they remained faithful to His call...often sitting at an empty table at dinner praying for the food...they saw many miracles. Sadly we will not live that way until we are forced to, just like Israel...in times of blessing we drift and in times of desperation and hopelessness we return...

    It does not have to be that way...we choose...

    Scenario...one gets up each morning determined to only eat what God provides miraculously that day...they have money but choose not to use it...to develop faith in God as if they had none..

    Right now someone is saying, 'But God gave us the money so isn't that foolish?' I say no especially if we grasp the concept of Laodicea and want God alone to reveal where our faith truly is...this is not a test of God, it is a test of us, a discipline...I wonder if after a few days of fasting and asking ourselves why, suddenly a loaf of bread appeared wouldn't our faith level and focus shift? Or like the prophet, a raven brought us food?

    In Laodicea they could afford whatever they desired and believed that was God's blessing...yet God stated that they were poor....that is where Christians in America, generally speaking, are....rich but poor...present company included..I don't kid myself about my faith level...I know it's low...

    IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    I have a health care plan that is out of this world!

    My Doctor (Doctor Jesus) is so great, that He actually took all my sickness and disease upon Himself so I would not have to have it... and He even sent the Holy Spirit to live inside me to force out the darkness that is the root cause of sickness and disease!

    Best part is, Doctor Jesus paid for it all, so there's no out of pocket expense... and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty... libery from what??? Whatever it is I need liberating from.

    As I understand it, I'm hearing not all Christians experience this health coverage.

    Maybe I'm just special and God really, really, really loves me or something... or, it could be that I started believing and walking in this (taking God's Word as alive, powerful, doing what He promised) and God was allowed to have residence in my life concerning health.
    Either way, my health care plan that is out of this world! Obamacare- Scary-b0212-gif
    Tell me FT, how did you develop this faith? Did you begin as Dr Price, trusting God to heal an headache? Has sickness attacked your body and you, by faith resisted until it left?

    Now I know what scripture says, but am asking you for a personal testimony...

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    Is this really happening?? There should be an uprising!

    How come the general public does not know about this!?

    I've not seen it anywhere

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    I was recently talking to someone here in the Bay Area. We have opened the first ever suicide clinic. There are 2 states who passed the assisted suicide law before us, but we are the first state to have a clinic just for suicides.

    Anyways, this person told me that through this new healthcare, they are eventually going to set an age cap of 75. You can live longer if you have the means or have no need for medical. Otherwise, your only option is pain management or suicide

    This world is turning over to darkness fast. I'm just shocked people are not outraged. Or do they even know? Where do we turn?

    Maybe this will be the beginning of the greatest healing miracle revival

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    I was recently talking to someone here in the Bay Area. We have opened the first ever suicide clinic. There are 2 states who passed the assisted suicide law before us, but we are the first state to have a clinic just for suicides.

    Anyways, this person told me that through this new healthcare, they are eventually going to set an age cap of 75. You can live longer if you have the means or have no need for medical. Otherwise, your only option is pain management or suicide

    This world is turning over to darkness fast. I'm just shocked people are not outraged. Or do they even know? Where do we turn?

    Maybe this will be the beginning of the greatest healing miracle revival
    Personally speaking, and meaning no disrespect whatsoever to the original poster or to Pentecali, I find it hard to believe that the healthcare law will limit Medicare beneficiaries to those under 75. (I know many people over that age who are enjoying excellent Medicare benefits.) The AARP, seniors, and most politicians would be completely opposed to such a limit. I'm sure that if that cap were in the law (to go into effect at a later date), it would have been exposed by now.

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    phoney baloney.. an email that's been going around for a long time..

    check your sources before passing on this crap.

    http://www.politifact.com/oregon/sta...nt-under-obam/



    http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/medicare76.asp


    I have a dear friend who gets this sort of thing regularly.. I usually just don't even read it.

    please don't start posting inflammatory stuff that's not correct.

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