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    Black Pentecostals and voting against Hillary because she is female

    http://www.charismanews.com/politics...o-be-president


    When it comes to Hillary I am with them

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    I don't care why they vote against her as long as they do. :)

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    Well, the Word does say women should not usurp authority over men.

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    Well, the Word does say women should not usurp authority over men.
    <sarcasm>Now Farm Truck this is 2016, those scriptures don't apply now because God wouldn't want us to offend all the feminists in the church </sarcasm>

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    Well, the Word does say women should not usurp authority over men.
    Actually it's more like wives should not usurp authority over husbands

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    Women should not be in positions of authority at all... as this is not the order God set for mankind.

    He created man first, and woman came out of man... and woman was made for man to be a help mate.

    No, men should not mistreat women and should view them as a blessing from the Lord... none the less, God never intended for women to be in authority over men on any level. There has been a feminization of the Body of Christ and the world in general as as part of satan's plan to twist God's order of how things should be to cause strife and division.

    The ultimate goal is to divert people from walking in God's Word and focus on themselves as being king over their lives... which makes satan smile.

    Jesus could have chosen a woman as one of this apostles, but did not because He only does what He sees and hears the Father does and says which is why in the age to come there will not be any women in positions of authority over men.

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    Ignorance gone to seed.

    Judges 4:4-5 I guess God has changed His mind. Malachi 3:6 James 1:17

    Women leaders of the Bible (not exhaustive)...Deborah, Miriam the prophetess (Micah 6:4)...Huldah the prophetess (2 Kings 22)

    Honorable mention...Noadiah, Isaiah's wife, Anna, Abigail, and Mary (Jesus' mother)




    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Women should not be in positions of authority at all... as this is not the order God set for mankind.

    He created man first, and woman came out of man... and woman was made for man to be a help mate.

    No, men should not mistreat women and should view them as a blessing from the Lord... none the less, God never intended for women to be in authority over men on any level. There has been a feminization of the Body of Christ and the world in general as as part of satan's plan to twist God's order of how things should be to cause strife and division.

    The ultimate goal is to divert people from walking in God's Word and focus on themselves as being king over their lives... which makes satan smile.

    Jesus could have chosen a woman as one of this apostles, but did not because He only does what He sees and hears the Father does and says which is why in the age to come there will not be any women in positions of authority over men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Women should not be in positions of authority at all... as this is not the order God set for mankind.

    He created man first, and woman came out of man... and woman was made for man to be a help mate.

    No, men should not mistreat women and should view them as a blessing from the Lord... none the less, God never intended for women to be in authority over men on any level. There has been a feminization of the Body of Christ and the world in general as as part of satan's plan to twist God's order of how things should be to cause strife and division.

    The ultimate goal is to divert people from walking in God's Word and focus on themselves as being king over their lives... which makes satan smile.

    Jesus could have chosen a woman as one of this apostles, but did not because He only does what He sees and hears the Father does and says which is why in the age to come there will not be any women in positions of authority over men.


    That's where you have it wrong. It's not "help mate" but "help meet."


    The Real Meaning of the Term "Help Meet"

    One of the most frequently misunderstood terms in the bible is the term "help meet" in the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2:18 it says, "And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."


    The common way in which the term "help meet" is interpreted is to mean that Eve, unlike the other beasts of the earth, was "appropriate for" or "worthy" of Adam and was to be his helper or companion on the earth. While there are some really good things about this interpretation it doesn't do full justice to what the term "help meet" really means. The term, in it's original Hebrew, means something much more profound and powerful than just a "helper" and when we understand what God was saying to Adam we come to see Eve's role and the role of women on this earth in a much different light.

    In Hebrew the two words that "help meet" are derived from are the words "ezer" and the word 'k’enegdo".

    Ezer which is commonly translated as "help" is really a rich word with a much deeper meaning. In her book Eve and the Choice Made in Eden, Beverly Campbell explains,

    “According to biblical scholar David Freedman, the Hebrew word translated thee into English as “help” is ezer. This word is a combination of two roots, one meaning “to rescue”, “to save,” and the other meaning “to be strong.” Just as the roots merged into one word, so did their meanings. At first ezer meant either “to save” or “to be strong,” but in time, said Freedman, ezer “ was always interpreted as ‘to help’ a mixture of both nuances.”

    Diana Webb in her book Forgotten Women of God also clarifies this word by explaining,

    "The noun ezer occurs 21 times in the Hebrew Bible. In eight of these instances the word means “savior”. These examples are easy to identify because they are associated with other expressions of deliverance or saving. Elsewhere in the Bible, the root ezer means “strength.... the word is most frequently used to describe how God is an ezer to man. "

    For example the word "ebenezer" in 1 Samuel 7:12 is used to describe the power of God's deliverance. "Eben" means rock and "ezer" means "help" or "salvation". Ebenezer therefore means "rock of help" or "rock of salvation". The root "ezer" is the same word that God used to describe to Adam who Eve was. She was not intended to be just his helper or his companion, rather she was intended to be his savior, his deliverer.

    The other part of the term "help meet" which is commonly translated as "meet for" or "fit for" is the word "k’enegdo". It is hard to know exactly what the word k’enegdo means because it only appears once in the entire Bible. Yet Diana Webb explained that,

    "Neged, a related word which means “against”, was one of the first words I learned in Hebrew. I thought it was very strange that God would create a companion for Adam that was “against” him! Later, I learned that kenegdo could also mean “in front of” or “opposite.” This still didn’t help much. Finally I heard it explained as being “exactly corresponding to,” like when you look at yourself in a mirror."

    Eve was not designed to be exactly like Adam. She was designed to be his mirror opposite, possessing the other half of the qualities, responsibilities, and attributes which he lacked. Just like Adam and Eve's sexual organs were physically mirror opposites (one being internal and the other external) so were their their divine stewardship designed to be opposite but fit together perfectly to create life. Eve was Adam's complete spiritual equal, endowed with an essential saving power that was opposite from his....

    “It is not good that man should be alone. I will make him a companion of strength and power who has a saving power and is equal with him.”


    Read the rest of the article here.
    http://www.womeninthescriptures.com/...help-meet.html

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    This is total nonsense. First off, most large Pentecostal denominations ordain women. PAW (Pentecostal assemblies of the world) not only ordains women, but has women Bishops.

    COGIC license women ministers, UPC ordains women.

    Bishop Trout is from Calif. I have met him. This other guy does not represent the vast majority at all. This must have been another ploy by the media to stir up nothing

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    The term "help meet" means "fit or appropriate for." Eve being female is appropriate for Adam's maleness.

    She is a helper fit for him as opposed to another male or an animal. Neither male or animal would be a fit helper for Adam or any other man. God made Eve (not Steve) for Adam, because she is appropriately fit for him.
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