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    i'm voting third party! never done it before but i refuse to support whats being forced on us.... libertarian here i come...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Trump seems arrogant and self righteous though.
    Big deal.

    He could be humbled...

    I Corinthians 1:27-29
    (27) But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
    (28) And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
    (29) That no flesh should glory in his presence.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    i'm voting third party! never done it before but i refuse to support whats being forced on us.... libertarian here i come...
    And that will stop our slide how?
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    And that will stop our slide how?
    didnt say it would....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    didnt say it would....
    I see your point...truth is nothing will stop our side, IMHO..it might be slowed down but I am not even convinced of that. Matter of fact, I am not even convinced it would be slowed by any candidate...none are likely to humble themselves and pray and repent for themselves and our nation. none are likely to call the nation to repentance...and that is the only thing that would stop the slide..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Trump seems arrogant and self righteous though.
    If you watch the first 5 minutes of the video I posted, you will see a much younger, humble Donald with a likeable personality. I have to believe that he is still in there somewhere.

    I would like to see what would happen if someone actually presented the gospel to Mr. Trump so that he could understand that he has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. God could really do something powerful in him yet.

    I think the Hildabeast has a block of ice for a heart.

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    I think Trump is a better prospect for successful prayer because he is a successful business man, has that kind of knowledge, starting from a better 'base' with a lot more conservatism then Hillary, etc. He just has attributes that are better suited to conservatism from the get-go. Hillary is basically just an ultra-politician from the get-go.

    Of course not that God can't change anyone, but there's more to change with Hillary starting with just the basic liberal vs conservative viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I think Trump is a better prospect for successful prayer because he is a successful business man, has that kind of knowledge, starting from a better 'base' with a lot more conservatism then Hillary, etc. He just has attributes that are better suited to conservatism from the get-go. Hillary is basically just an ultra-politician from the get-go.

    Of course not that God can't change anyone, but there's more to change with Hillary starting with just the basic liberal vs conservative viewpoint.
    True, some truly seem to have exalted themselves to the point of willfully and knowingly rejected God..others just seem to lean more toward ignorance...I believe Hillary fits the first...of course God alone knows for sure but my leaning is that she has sold her soul for power...

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    In 1980 he was already quite skilled at presenting himself publically. Also, most people tend to seem more conservative in clips from several decades back unless they are trying not to be. I know they do here in Norway, it is the way of the (western) world that people have become less restrained in how they talk than they were previously. So I'm not sure what he is and what he merely sounds like in that video.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    If you watch the first 5 minutes of the video I posted, you will see a much younger, humble Donald with a likeable personality. I have to believe that he is still in there somewhere.

    I would like to see what would happen if someone actually presented the gospel to Mr. Trump so that he could understand that he has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. God could really do something powerful in him yet.

    I think the Hildabeast has a block of ice for a heart.

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