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Somebody was telling me today that they heard in some interview that Trump says he wants to move gay rights forward and he wants to change the Repubs position to be in favor of abortion.
I haven't search to see if these two items are true or not, but if they are then he's no different than any of the rest of them.
This is all an exercise in futility anyway... the one world establishment wants Hillary or Bernie and a growing majority of this nation wants socialism... and so this is what we will get.
You guys do understand that God said a one world government / religion is coming, right?
You can see the foundation for these things coming forth and if the US is strong like we once were it would put a kink in the time of the gentiles (those without God)... the US is now too dark and the end of the age is at hand, so this nation is not turning around.
Consider that a 'thus saith the Lord'... His Word teaches these things.
We should not be looking back, but forward to being with the Lord realizing this world is not where we belong.
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Originally Posted by
Bookman
A question for all of us non-Trumpers. Let's say he gets the Republican nomination. Then he picks a thoroughly acceptable v-p. Carly or Marco, or Allen West, or someone just as conservative (Cruz, of course, wouldn't accept). Would you then hold your nose and vote for him? What if he made some sort of pro-life pledge and Religious Freedom pledge? Would you accept that, knowing that the alternative would be Hillary or Bernie?
In short, are there ANY circumstances under which you can see yourself voting for Trump?
Bumping this thread as he is now pretty much the Republican candidate. I just wrote this on that thread on your FB page in response to some who feel they can't vote for 'the lesser of two evils'...it bears repeating:
Wrong dynamic, you don't choose the lesser of two evils, you choose the candidate who's values most closely match yours. Voting is a privilege and your vote is precious seed and while it sounds good to make a statement by voting for a third party candidate who has no chance of winning you have in essence wasted your vote.
Look how far this country has fallen just in the last few years... major religious persecutions, liberal abortion policies and multitudes of illegal aliens and unvetted refugees pouring in just to name a few. Would this have happened if Mitt Romney had been elected? No.
But because some folks thought their conscience wouldn't allow them to vote for Mitt Romney, THEY put Obama in the white house. Thats right, Christians who thought they were doing the 'right' thing are ironically responsible for the extreme liberalism that is trying to sweep thru and destroy our nation.
Don't make the same mistake again, make sure your vote counts, seriously pray for wisdom on this. There is way too much at stake including the appointments of future Supreme Court Justices who will be making decisions affecting our laws for the durations of their lives.
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IF God's people, called by His name, will humble themselves and seek HIS face and turn from their wicked ways HE will hear and heal their land...it has always been the only answer, and it always will be the only answer..
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God help me, I may end up having to vote for Trump. But they'll replace the polling machine because I'm sure no one will want to clean up the projectile vomit all over it.
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So what do you think about Russell Moore's piece that says in part:
"When Christians face two clearly immoral options, we cannot rationalize a vote for immorality or injustice just because we deem the alternative to be worse. The Bible tells us we will be held accountable not only for the evil deeds we do but also when we 'give approval to those who practice them' (Rom. 1:32). This side of the New Jerusalem, we will never have a perfect candidate. But we cannot vote for evil, even if it’s our only option."
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Bookie ... the alternative to voting seems to be revolution ... which is not a bad idea, at this point. Tho it would be a three-sided war -- the Bernie people are talking extensively about violence these days. Though I think their side wouldn't get far ...
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I think Russell isn't thinking it through to the logical conclusion.
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Originally Posted by
Femme*
I think Russell isn't thinking it through to the logical conclusion.
Exactly, it sounds good and noble but you see what that thinking did in the last election...ultra liberal Obama won because Christians were pouting about voting for a Mormon even tho that Mormon held similar values and could have saved thousands of aborted babies.
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Originally Posted by
krystian
Exactly, it sounds good and noble but you see what that thinking did in the last election...ultra liberal Obama won because Christians were pouting about voting for a Mormon even tho that Mormon held similar values and could have saved thousands of aborted babies.
I *think* he's talking about "in the biggest of big pictures" ... but in my opinion, one baby's life is worth it ... and that's why I'll throw up on a voting booth if I have to.
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