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Originally Posted by
Nikos
Because Cruz is friendly to Pentecostals and may even be one. I know his father is. Ken Copeland prophesied that Cruz would be the next Pres.
Yes and Kim Clement says Trump is God's trumpet.. Or something like that.
If Cruz is God's chosen then he will succeed, just as God made David to despite all the opposition.
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The tuning of America will come from the church of Jesus Christ and the moving of His Spirit...not the White House.
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However, God may use the White House or whatever He chooses to use.
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Originally Posted by
Quest
Yes and Kim Clement says Trump is God's trumpet..
Or something like that.
If Cruz is God's chosen then he will succeed, just as God made David to despite all the opposition.
You must believe in Calvinism. I believe that we have a free will and God's will is not always accomplished. Man can thwart the will of God. Man can reject God's will. Just like he rejects salvation even though God desires him to be saved.
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I think we are headed for a choice between two evils. To me Donald Trump represents everything I hate about corporate greed. Either of the Democratic candidates represent the basic value of the worship of the Human spirit. Frankly, I'm not seeing any good choices coming to the presidential election for 2016. The good guys just won't fight dirty enough to win. As the United States embraces more and more evil in every venue, what will God's faithful do? Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil!
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The fact that God can use an ass tells me he can certainly use Trump!
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Originally Posted by
Nikos
However, God may use the White House or whatever He chooses to use.
True, He did use Pharaoh to get His message across.
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Originally Posted by
Nikos
You must believe in Calvinism. I believe that we have a free will and God's will is not always accomplished. Man can thwart the will of God. Man can reject God's will. Just like he rejects salvation even though God desires him to be saved.
No but as I said...nothing Satan did could thwart God's intent for David to be king...David himself, stayed true to God and God brought it to pass...
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Originally Posted by
Tehilah Ba'Aretz
I think we are headed for a choice between two evils. To me Donald Trump represents everything I hate about corporate greed. Either of the Democratic candidates represent the basic value of the worship of the Human spirit. Frankly, I'm not seeing any good choices coming to the presidential election for 2016. The good guys just won't fight dirty enough to win. As the United States embraces more and more evil in every venue, what will God's faithful do? Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil!
We see two kingdoms running parallel in the earth...the kingdom of man, the US and the kingdom of God...the kingdom of US is a reflection of the condition of the church of Jesus Christ.
IMHO
In order for an earthly kingdom to flourish it must embrace a peaceful coexistence ith God's kingdom...many in leadership have set themselves against this and so God is against them..that tension and opposition may not change until like Rome, America falls..but the church, the Kingdom of God can and should flourish despite the earthly kingdom.
They should pray...God is not subject to the kingdom of darkness and can use evil people to His advantage to bring revival and restoration...the dilemma lies not in ho e vote or even who e vote for but in whether the church will repent and turn from humanism and recommit to the God and King.
They 'church' in America is so filled with humanism and PC and carnal high mindedness that it has forgotten who it's true source of peace is..here the true power of conviction, repentance and restoration comes from and they keep looking for 'a man'.
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Originally Posted by
Quest
No but as I said...nothing Satan did could thwart God's intent for David to be king...David himself, stayed true to God and God brought it to pass...
God never fails and will always keep His word. But David could have failed and we would be reading a different story today. Yet I believe that even if David failed and another man was chosen, God will ultimately have his way.
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