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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    That does sound like exactly what Canada decided to do already on December 18th :

    https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safe...on-system.html

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    I tried a Canadian tariff calculator, selected some kind of dairy for export to the US and got $1.1 per kilo. Which is probably over a hundred percent. For import from the US, 3 cents per kilo.

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    Interesting web site! If I'm using the tool correctly, the USA-to-Canada import duty for non-concentrated non-skim milk
    is 0.0% for milk that satisfies NAFTA "rules of origin" regulations, and 7.5% otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Interesting web site! If I'm using the tool correctly, the USA-to-Canada import duty for non-concentrated non-skim milk
    is 0.0% for milk that satisfies NAFTA "rules of origin" regulations, and 7.5% otherwise.
    Yeah, your not using it correctly. There is "milk" and there are "milk products", the tariffs are buried in there somewhere. You can try to decipher "milk" here:

    1. The expression "milk" means full cream milk or partially or completely skimmed milk.

    2. For the purposes of heading 04.03, yogurt may be concentrated or flavoured and may contain added sugar or other sweetening matter, fruit, nuts, cocoa, chocolate, spices, coffee or coffee extracts, plants, parts of plants, cereals or bakers' wares, provided that any added substance is not used for the purpose of replacing, in whole or in part, any milk constituent, and the product retains the essential character of yogurt.

    3. For the purposes of heading 04.05:

    (a) The term "butter" means natural butter, whey butter or recombined butter (fresh, salted or rancid, including canned butter) derived exclusively from milk, with a milkfat content of 80% or more but not more than 95% by weight, a maximum milk solids-not-fat content of 2% by weight and a maximum water content of 16% by weight. Butter does not contain added emulsifiers, but may contain sodium chloride, food colours, neutralising salts and cultures of harmless lactic-acid-producing bacteria.
    (b) The expression "dairy spreads" means a spreadable emulsion of the water-in-oil type, containing milkfat as the only fat in the product, with a milkfat content of 39% or more but less than 80% by weight.
    4. Products obtained by the concentration of whey and with the addition of milk or milkfat are to be classified as cheese in heading 04.06 provided that they have the three following characteristics:

    (a) a milkfat content, by weight of the dry matter, of 5% or more;
    (b) a dry matter content, by weight, of at least 70% but not exceeding 85%; and
    (c) they are moulded or capable of being moulded.
    Chapter 4 : T2023

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    On some dairy imports, yes. Canada essentially allows two avenues for dairy imports -- those within quota, and surplus stuff. It's the latter where tariffs spike, because Canada's whole system is built to avoid a surplus -- hence its name, "supply management."

    Take milk, for instance. Within quota, the tariff is 7.5%. Over-quota milk faces a 241% tariff. Other over-quota rates include blended dairy powder at 270%. Duties rise to as high as 314% for other products, according to data from the World Trade Organization. Canadian officials argue that all countries subsidize dairy, including the U.S. -- Canada essentially does so indirectly by closing its borders and capping production. If you've got a slice of the quota, though,
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I saw somewhere that Canada's overall tariff levels were around 2.5 percent. Most countries didn't differ that much from that. So I think the main point is that adding 10 or 25 percent would amount to a very significant general increase.

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