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    I am starting to understand how church and fascism go together

    I am spending a lot of time watching videos from Trump rallies.

    I hear him saying many times to women
    - I will be your protector
    - I will be your provider
    - under me you will be save
    - under me you will be healthy
    - under me you will not be afraid
    - under me you will prosper
    etc
    It is never under MAGA
    or under the gouverment he will establish
    it is never WE only every time *I*

    As a christian I have a problem here.

    I have heard MrTrump using so many phrases that sound like Hitlers book "Mein Kampf/My Struggle" (that he has read)
    like everybody who is not for him is against him. He wants to fight the enemy within (american citizens) even with military (He repeated that in interviews and we all know that this goes against the american constitution).
    He is talking about the evil genetics brought to the US through imigrants
    He talkes about pulling down medias he doesn't like to stop the right of free speech
    It is all about him, he wants to be the leader and make decisions to his gusto
    Worldwide there are only a few other leaders he likes
    They are Putin, Orban, Kim, Xi Jinbing and he see's himself on the same level

    Sorry, this is a step towards facism

    And why is the church supporting, cheering for this?
    Why do we need a dictator to lead us?
    Can't we just put our hopes in Jesus Christ and him alone?

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    Every political leader says...my government and I will do this. It is common down here to use this terminology
    Are you saying Biden didn't say this as I have heard him - it's obvious you have selected hearing and only want to see and hear what you want

    People who were anti Trump said in 2016 he will start WW3 and will be a dictator ----did it happen??????????
    The North Korean dictator was firing rockets near Japan and threatening war until Trump as President challenged him and he totally stopped


    How about the churches that called Kamala an Esther - millions of Democrats christians are voting for her
    Kamala Harris receives prayer, likened to biblical Esther | Politics

    How about Kamala using christians to urge them how to vote - Harris visits Black churches in Georgia in 'souls to the polls' early voting push | CNN Politics


    You should just admit you don't like Trump instead of making things up. Plenty of articles about Kamala and Democrat christians but you conveniently don't find them
    There are plenty more I have seen...so why haven't you seen them????

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    Just for you tschau...it took me a few minutes to find this video of Biden saying I. That's right 2-3 minutes it wasn't hard


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    I'm sure Jesus is happy seeing christians vote for Democrats that want minors to transition to opposite gender

    Tschau..since you have the discernment to tell us Trump's phrases sound like Hitler can you please tell us what Jesus thinks about children and those who abuse them

    Tim Walz turned Minnesota into a danger zone for confused kids

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    Great article how Trump reached out to suffering Americans and was smeared and lied about by the mainstream media that influences millions to vote Democrat


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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    He is talking about the evil genetics brought to the US through immigrants
    Do you have a clip where he talks about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Just for you tschau...it took me a few minutes to find this video of Biden saying I. That's right 2-3 minutes it wasn't hard

    I think that it perhaps underscores the focus on personalities instead of political parties in the US, especially in relation to the presidential election. In addition, Trump doesn't come across as a typical Republican, so he has even less reason to talk about the virtues of the Republican party being the ruling party and having the President. Calling Trump a fascist for merely referring to himself as a candidate for a presidency where he will wield a lot of personal power, instead of to "the Republican party", is something that I would expect CNN to come up with. Or some Norwegian news site. They tend to smear Trump as hard as they can, and reading one positive word about anything related to him is as common as a red herring happily swimming through outer space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    I am spending a lot of time watching videos from Trump rallies.

    I hear him saying many times to women
    - I will be your protector
    - I will be your provider
    - under me you will be save
    - under me you will be healthy
    - under me you will not be afraid
    - under me you will prosper
    etc
    It is never under MAGA
    or under the gouverment he will establish
    it is never WE only every time *I*

    As a christian I have a problem here.

    I have heard MrTrump using so many phrases that sound like Hitlers book "Mein Kampf/My Struggle" (that he has read)
    like everybody who is not for him is against him. He wants to fight the enemy within (american citizens) even with military (He repeated that in interviews and we all know that this goes against the american constitution).
    He is talking about the evil genetics brought to the US through imigrants
    He talkes about pulling down medias he doesn't like to stop the right of free speech
    It is all about him, he wants to be the leader and make decisions to his gusto
    Worldwide there are only a few other leaders he likes
    They are Putin, Orban, Kim, Xi Jinbing and he see's himself on the same level

    Sorry, this is a step towards facism

    And why is the church supporting, cheering for this?
    Why do we need a dictator to lead us?
    Can't we just put our hopes in Jesus Christ and him alone?
    Trump does tend to brag about himself .. That I would agree with you on ..

    The rest of your concerns are utter nonsense and your jump to mein kampf simply means you have been watching too much CNN . Biden has dedicated entre programs and has marshalled entire swathes of the federal government to fighting the MAGA folks and perverting the rule of law while ignoring any notion of due process so they are the one that have been fighting "the enemy within" .

    Furthermoe your reference to Trump being unconstituional is laughable , Its teh dems who want to do away with the electoral college, pack the courts , Limit Gun Rights, Limit Free Speech, Limit religious liberty while selectively enforcing the law like they do with open borders but yet Trump is the one you claim is unconstitutional .. I laugh

    You said :
    He is talking about the evil genetics brought to the US through imigrants
    No when talking about "illegal immigrants poisoning our bloodstream" he is talking what happens to any society when a a nation permits lawlessness . What has made America unique in its history was its legacy as a "Nation of Laws Not of Men"(John Adam) .He is not talking Genetics.

    That said I REALLY do wish he would stop using some of the metaphorical language that he uses because it can easily be misconstrued

    He talkes about pulling down medias he doesn't like to stop the right of free speech
    He was in office 4 years not one media house was shut down , Not one Journalist was thrown in Jail or Harrased and it was his opponents' who tried to take away our free speech not Him .. Like i said this is Utter Nonsense

    It is all about him, he wants to be the leader and make decisions to his gusto
    Worldwide there are only a few other leaders he likes
    They are Putin, Orban, Kim, Xi Jinbing and he see's himself on the same level
    More nonsense ... during the Pandemic he allowed states to make their own decisions , He never tried to take over private institutions and preferred partnering with them . He has always sought to shrink the federal government not to make it bigger or more intrusive ,, To say he is like Putin, Orban, Kim, Xi Jinbing etc is just outright foolishness with no basis in reality. you have clearly been watching too much CNN

    Sorry, this is a step towards facism

    And why is the church supporting, cheering for this?
    Why do we need a dictator to lead us?
    Can't we just put our hopes in Jesus Christ and him alone?
    Cos the church (at least the serious ones) dont take their cues from CNN/BBC/NY Times or whoever you apparently take your cues from . We know who the real Leftist/Globalist dictators are and the planned agenda that they have for our lives . Thats why we are with Trump.

    My question to you is why dont you put your hope in Jesus Christ alone instead of worrying about Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Every political leader says...my government and I will do this. It is common down here to use this terminology
    Are you saying Biden didn't say this as I have heard him - it's obvious you have selected hearing and only want to see and hear what you want

    People who were anti Trump said in 2016 he will start WW3 and will be a dictator ----did it happen??????????
    The North Korean dictator was firing rockets near Japan and threatening war until Trump as President challenged him and he totally stopped


    How about the churches that called Kamala an Esther - millions of Democrats christians are voting for her
    Kamala Harris receives prayer, likened to biblical Esther | Politics

    How about Kamala using christians to urge them how to vote - Harris visits Black churches in Georgia in 'souls to the polls' early voting push | CNN Politics


    You should just admit you don't like Trump instead of making things up. Plenty of articles about Kamala and Democrat christians but you conveniently don't find them
    There are plenty more I have seen...so why haven't you seen them????
    What is wrong with listening to Trump? I am specifically listening to what he says, not about comments on him.
    That I write about what he says.

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    I do not know why you think I watch CNN.
    I am watching videos from Trump rallies.

    Colonel: I can't find it about the genetics right now, but it is something he said a few days ago on a rally in context with immigrants. I should have written down exactly at what occasion it was.

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