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    DeSantis is 'scarier' opponent than Trump, say Democrats

    So now the demonization and propaganda assault against DeSantis starts.
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    President Biden has repeatedly talked about taking on former President Trump.

    He still tells anyone who will listen that he's the only Democrat who can defeat the former president, and he said last month that he wouldn't be disappointed if Trump ran against him in 2024.

    But some Democrats say that if Biden does run for reelection, he also needs to actively target Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and stop boxing himself into a Trump race.

    Trump is all but certain to enter the race, but with the Jan. 6 hearings hammering him and potential lawsuits looming, DeSantis is the Republican to watch, some Democrats say.

    "To me, DeSantis is the scarier prospect," one Democratic strategist said. "He's a smarter version of Trump, he's way more strategic, and he doesn't have a hundred lawsuits at his feet."

    "If Trump goes bust, and he very well may, he's the main guy I'd be watching," the strategist said of the Florida governor.

    Throughout his administration, DeSantis has made it a point to use Biden as a foil, blaming the president for policies he says are taking the country in the wrong direction.

    In recent days, he has doubled down on Biden's push for vaccine booster shots to help combat COVID-19, which still rages throughout much of the country.

    "We just saw Joe Biden test positive for COVID, right? And I've said we obviously wish him well on that, but you know, this is a guy that's taken how many booster shots? I mean, seriously, [he's] done all this stuff and gets it," DeSantis told supporters late last month at an event in Tampa.

    During another speech that week, he also used Biden's diagnosis to blast him. "I want to wish the president a speedy recovery from COVID and America a speedy recovery from Biden."

    As DeSantis runs for reelection this year in a state that has been moving toward Republicans, Democrats say Biden and other national Democrats should take him on.

    "What's inexplicable to me is, why — not just Joe Biden — but the entire Democratic establishment isn't trying to disqualify him now in the governor's race," said Fernand Amandi, a Miami-based pollster and consultant whose firm helped Barack Obama's presidential campaign win the state in 2008 and 2012.

    "He's getting an absolute free pass," Amandi said of DeSantis. "He has no sense of shame. ... He's acting like someone who doesn't feel accountable to anyone."

    It's not as though Biden has been completely silent on DeSantis. In recent months, he has taken on policies in Florida endorsed by the governor.

    The Biden administration went after DeSantis after Florida was the only state in the country that didn't preorder pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.

    The president has also taken veiled swipes at DeSantis on other issues, including Disney, after the governor signed a bill into law stripping its self-government power that provides derives for its theme parks. The law was seen as payback after Disney criticized DeSantis for the so-called "Don't Say Gay" law, which prohibits discussion of sexual orientation in classrooms.

    "This is not your father's Republican Party," Biden said at a Democratic National Committee fundraising event in April. "It's not even conservative in a traditional sense of conservatism. It's mean. It's ugly. I mean, look at what's happening now in Florida: Christ, they're going after Mickey Mouse."

    Biden also took to Twitter to voice his opposition to the law.

    "I want every member of the LGBTQI+ community — especially the kids who will be impacted by this hateful bill — to know that you are loved and accepted just as you are," the president wrote on the social media platform. "I have your back, and my administration will continue to fight for the protections and safety you deserve."

    Still, some Democrats say they'd like to see Biden go after DeSantis more. They say he should emulate California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), who, in a rare move, took the fight to DeSantis by airing an ad on Fox News last month.

    "Biden has to spend more time in Florida, taking on DeSantis, and not giving him the complete stage," the strategist said. "We can't be surprised when he suddenly emerges as the favorite of the party because we see this train coming."

    While Trump continues to dominate polls for Republicans, DeSantis appears to be on his heels in key states. A Detroit News poll of likely Republican primary voters found DeSantis statistically tied with Trump. A University of New Hampshire poll also found both Republicans dead even in the state.

    But for now, at least, Biden remains largely fixated on Trump, Biden allies say.

    "They believe strongly in the end that Trump will be the nominee," said one ally who speaks to White House officials regularly. "That's the governing theory, until somebody proves otherwise."

    As Martin Sweet, a professor of political science at Purdue University put it: "For Biden, using Trump as the leader of the opposition is a useful, motivating tool."

    "Trump is such shorthand for everything," he said. "He is such a unique political figure that it would be crazy not to talk about him."

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    DeSantis is scary? The liberals keep up these shenanigans and they WILL see worse. They are already terrified.

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    People talk about the divisions in the Republican Party. I wonder if a DeSantis/Liz Cheney pairing in 2024 would bring the party together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    People talk about the divisions in the Republican Party. I wonder if a DeSantis/Liz Cheney pairing in 2024 would bring the party together?
    Liz Cheney would be just perfect for the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    People talk about the divisions in the Republican Party. I wonder if a DeSantis/Liz Cheney pairing in 2024 would bring the party together?
    oh my!!! Could those two work together? They seem far apart policywise in a lot of ways. I might be missing something. I'm not sure anything could bring the Republican Party back together.

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    Who in the world would want Liz Cheney on the Republican ticket? Not me.

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    Who in the world would want Liz Cheney on the Republican ticket? Not me.
    She has a very conservative record. If issues matter more than personalities, they should work together for the sake of the conservative agenda. If we make the 2024 election about the past, we'll lose. I honestly can't believe Trump still has supporters. He's now taking the Fifth Amendment when he's previously asked why would a person take the Fifth if they've done nothing wrong. His backing of Oz for the PA Senate race showed his true colors. Oz is a RINO. Kathy Barnette was a Trump supporter, a solid conservative and yet he chose to endorse Oz, who will likely lose. Even if he wins, do we really need another RINO in the Senate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    People talk about the divisions in the Republican Party. I wonder if a DeSantis/Liz Cheney pairing in 2024 would bring the party together?
    Why in the world would I want to be together with Liz Cheney ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I honestly can't believe Trump still has supporters.
    I mean I get it. Only someone that didn't like Trump would think of Liz Cheney as a viable candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Why in the world would I want to be together with Liz Cheney ??
    1. Because you both agree on the issues that matter.
    2. To win big, Republicans need the support of ALL Republicans.
    3. The alternative may be another four years of liberal government.

    The greater question is why anyone wants Trump to run again.

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