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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    here a google translation of a article, that I found on the website of OPEN DOORS: It is from March 2020


    Ukraine: Increased pressure on churches in Donbas region

    The Protestant churches in the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts of Ukraine face increasing intimidation by the authorities.

    Blocked access to water and electricity, banned books, buses and arrests: Christians in the Donbass region (Donbas for short) are facing increasing pressure.

    Attack on a church

    On January 19, a pastor and several church members were arrested after a raid on a Protestant congregation in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic. Those arrested were released a few hours later without any charges being brought against them.

    A 2018 law requires religious communities not affiliated with the Moscow Patriarchate to re-register, but few were able to have their registration approved before the March 2019 deadline.

    intimidation

    Many religious communities were intimidated by the secessionist administration. In December last year, the leader of a Pentecostal church in Makeyevka was fined 3,400 Russian rubles - about 10 days' wages - for carrying out his ministry without permission.

    The situation of religious groups in Luhansk differs little from that in Donetsk: those who have not registered with the secessionist government are considered illegal and run the risk of being cut off from gas, electricity and water.

    Gospel of John forbidden

    In December, information from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Youth revealed that there was not a single Protestant community among the 195 registered religious groups. As a result, the Ukrainian Baptist Union decided in March to stop all public meetings.

    Those who continue their church activities without being registered must expect to be approached by the authorities. For example, officials accused 60-year-old Baptist pastor Vladimir Rytikov of extremism after he refused to halt his church's activities in the town of Krasnodon, near Russia's eastern border.

    Twelve books distributed by the Church were also banned, including the Gospel of John, for its "extremist" character.
    Again, you are misleading. You posted about the region of Donbas, not Putin. I'm not sure registering your church is "persecution" in the true sense. Most every church in America is registered. What's with the need to mis-lead?

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    [SIZE=3Why is our government so concerned about another nation's borders being over run, when they allow/encourage our own border to be over run?][/SIZE]

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    The embrace of Putin by the American Right Wing, which used to be anti-totalitarian, is a site to see. Ronald Reagan is most certainly rolling in his grave.

    I guess the American Right would assert that Putin's invasion of the Crimean Peninsula was just a hoax - fake news - a witch hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    The embrace of Putin by the American Right Wing, which used to be anti-totalitarian, is a site to see. Ronald Reagan is most certainly rolling in his grave.

    I guess the American Right would assert that Putin's invasion of the Crimean Peninsula was just a hoax - fake news - a witch hunt.
    You leftists need a boogey man so much you are willing to tempt WW3, what a bunch of disgusting, immoral pigs.

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    You leftists need a boogey man so much you are willing to tempt WW3, what a bunch of disgusting, immoral pigs.
    Agree 1000%

    Anyone can see that the libbies are desperate to magnify any problem they find i.e. blow it up so big that when common sense objectively looks at such, the libbies hop in to quickly say that the problem/crisis is improving. Yup, they can't waste a good crisis...and if they can't find one? Create one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    You leftists need a boogey man so much you are willing to tempt WW3, what a bunch of disgusting, immoral pigs.
    ops, I must have missed something.
    Can't we disagree without getting so emotional?

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    I do not think the ukrainian issue is a threat for the US, and Mr Biden has made clear, that he will not send military help. Thats good.
    Putin is testing how far he can go. Here in Europe we live around the corner and this worries the people here.
    What surprises me and I do not understand is how you see Putin. He is a communist, how comes you trust him so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    [SIZE=3Why is our government so concerned about another nation's borders being over run, when they allow/encourage our own border to be over run?][/SIZE]
    I do not understand. Is there a foreign army over running the US borders?

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    I'm not sure registering your church is "persecution" in the true sense. Most every church in America is registered. What's with the need to mis-lead?
    Registering your church is not persecution, but it allows the police to controll what is going on in church.
    persecution starts where they do not give you the chance to register, because then your meeting is illegal. If you are meeting as church, praying for another person etc you are committing a crime and you will get punished. Of course, they are not killing christians, they only give them a bad time.
    Most pastors live with a low income , and it is a huge problem if the have to pay big fines or even are put in jail for some time.
    It is hard for the churches when their buildings are closed and they are not allowed to meet, worship together.
    The activities against christian churches are not coming from the ukrainian government, but from the "russians" living there.

    We may disagree in political views and options, but we are as christians ONE family. We care for each other as brothers and sisters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Registering your church is not persecution, but it allows the police to controll what is going on in church.
    persecution starts where they do not give you the chance to register, because then your meeting is illegal. If you are meeting as church, praying for another person etc you are committing a crime and you will get punished. Of course, they are not killing christians, they only give them a bad time.
    Most pastors live with a low income , and it is a huge problem if the have to pay big fines or even are put in jail for some time.
    It is hard for the churches when their buildings are closed and they are not allowed to meet, worship together.
    The activities against christian churches are not coming from the ukrainian government, but from the "russians" living there.

    We may disagree in political views and options, but we are as christians ONE family. We care for each other as brothers and sisters.
    All fine but you said Putin was persecuting Christians, can you admit that is not true? You just shifted the topic (doubled down on your first untruth) to some "russians" so I call nonsense on that as well. What is going on in the Donbas region (not controlled by Ukraine) is a territory dispute, a civil war of sorts, not religious persecution. If some pastors are taking a political side in that civil war I would expect that they would get some push back but no, not persecution as most people would define it (for the sake of Christ).

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