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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    For me, one of the most important factors is that he is one of the most patriotic Americans to serve in that office in decades. He actually loves America. And because of his stint in the oval office, the enemy is working overtime to make dirty the concepts of "American nationalism" and "Patriotism". Anyone who displays any inkling of being patriotic is painted as "right wing extremists". American nationalism is now painted as "White nationalism".
    Satan absolutely hates America, just like he hates Israel. Why? Because both have been established by God. Our constitution was inspired by God, and only came into existence after prayer and fasting. That is why satan's minions (mostly Democrats) are working so hard to attack it.
    And any black American who loves this country and supports President Trump is called vicious names like "coon", "Uncle Tom" (which is actually a compliment as far as I'm concerned), "house n*****", etc. by Democrat blacks and whites.

    Liberal/Democrat blacks have no problem with white liberals calling Conservative blacks these names and worse. Conservative, patriotic black Americans are expected to kowtow to white elite DemonKKKrats.

    Joe Biden said "if you don't vote for me" (or if you vote for Trump), you ain't black." And ignorant black Democrats let him get away with that racist comment. The Willie Lynch syndrome is definitely at work in the Demonkkkrat Party.

    A white female shopper and I struck up a conservation in Sprouts during the elections (she had complimented me on my attire which started the conversation), She then turned the conversation to politics, when she learned I supported Donald Trump, she became angry, and said, "I shouldn't talk to you", I responded "seriously", you'd diss me over politics after the nice conversation we were having?"

    She responded, "yes, you support Trump!" Then she turned and walked away. This woman was clearly in her late 50's early 60's, yet with the maturity of an 17 year old.

    But I was to later discover, some of my family members, and many of my so-called friends would turn against me because of my support for Trump. Which only made me more sure I was doing the right thing by casting my vote for the man God chose to lead America for such a time as this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    For me, one of the most important factors is that he is one of the most patriotic Americans to serve in that office in decades. He actually loves America. And because of his stint in the oval office, the enemy is working overtime to make dirty the concepts of "American nationalism" and "Patriotism". Anyone who displays any inkling of being patriotic is painted as "right wing extremists". American nationalism is now painted as "White nationalism".

    Satan absolutely hates America, just like he hates Israel. Why? Because both have been established by God. Our constitution was inspired by God, and only came into existence after prayer and fasting. That is why satan's minions (mostly Democrats) are working so hard to attack it.
    For me, patriotism includes certain values like truthfulness, fair play, consideration of others, and much more. To say you support a person because of his love for America, yet you overlook his lack of values signals to me that patriotism trumps (literally!) the values that America SHOULD stand for. I want candidates who love America AND hold to the values I think are important in our leaders. These values do not include bragging, lying, self-interest, rudeness, crudeness, unfaithfulness to one's spouse, and the like. Nor, as I said, does it include hiring and then firing those you hired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    For me, patriotism includes certain values like truthfulness, fair play, consideration of others, and much more. To say you support a person because of his love for America, yet you overlook his lack of values signals to me that patriotism trumps (literally!) the values that America SHOULD stand for. I want candidates who love America AND hold to the values I think are important in our leaders. These values do not include bragging, lying, self-interest, rudeness, crudeness, unfaithfulness to one's spouse, and the like. Nor, as I said, does it include hiring and then firing those you hired.
    I would say that for a constitutional republic such as ours to survive, the people themselves must exhibit certain characteristics such as self-restraint, general goodwill, moderation, and respect for (not necessarily agreement with) others. If we lose these characteristics, we're likely to devolve into authoritarianism.

    Trump's words and behavior, especially while he was President, inspired the opposite, and for that reason, President Trump was decidedly unpatriotic and un-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I want candidates who love America AND hold to the values I think are important in our leaders. These values do not include bragging, lying, self-interest, rudeness, crudeness, unfaithfulness to one's spouse, and the like. Nor, as I said, does it include hiring and then firing those you hired.
    You just disqualified 85% of all politicians serving in our government right now.

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    Exclusive — Marco Rubio: Shift in Hispanic Vote Toward GOP Under Trump 'Permanent' Unless Republicans Revert to Pre-Trump Ways
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    Exclusive -- Rubio: Hispanic Shift Toward GOP and Trump May Be 'Permanent'


    MIAMI, Florida — Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) told Breitbart News he believes a profound shift seen in the 2020 election in the Hispanic community toward Republicans and away from Democrats will continue to intensify as long as the GOP sticks to what former President Donald Trump taught the party.

    "These are communities made up of people who value common sense wisdom and working class values," Rubio said when asked why Hispanic voters in Miami swung significantly Trump's and Republicans' way in 2020, a trend also seen in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas.

    "That's what their life is built on. Those are two things the left has abandoned. You hear lots of people talk about whether it's socialism. Socialism is a part of it. Socialism is a part of the common sense part of it. In their mind, if I were to step in the shoes of someone who maybe voted for Obama in 2012, then voted for Donald Trump in 2020, they would say to you, 'Look, I came from a socialist country. I fled it. Why the hell would we do that here?' It makes no sense to them. So you see Democrats stand up and say, 'I'm not a socialist,' and no you're not. You don't brand yourself as a socialist, but you support socialist things, and you support socialist leaders and socialist politics. It just makes no sense to them."

    Rubio added that this shift will be "permanent" as long as Republicans remain focused on common sense values that Trump championed for the GOP moving forward. He noted that most people in the Hispanic community do not spend all day on Twitter following establishment media figures' orders, but, instead, "they just live life based on common sense."

    "The left has abandoned that," Rubio said. "I think President Trump was doing a lot of things based on common sense. In their mind, it made all the sense in the world. They don't understand why their side is against it. And then working class values. Most of these people here don't care what you do with your life. They don't want to tell you how to live your life, who to marry, who to love, and so forth—but you're asking them to abandon three or four thousand years of accumulated human wisdom because a handful of crazy professors have convinced people everything we knew was true is no longer true on things like gender, on this or that. These guys just got turned off by all that, and I think it accelerated through the summer on the pandemic and the rioting and all of that. I think that shift is permanent unless we as Republicans go back to being who we used to be—then we give these people no political home."....







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    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
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    How cool would it be to see the Dems bend over to make every way for the illegals coming to vote. Thinking of course that they would vote liberal...and they go conservative. That I'd like to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    How cool would it be to see the Dems bend over to make every way for the illegals coming to vote. Thinking of course that they would vote liberal...and they go conservative. That I'd like to see.
    Good point. Hey it could happen. That would be awesome.

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    President Trump was decidedly unpatriotic and un-American.
    If standing up to bullies that are lying on you and viciously attacking your wife and children 24/7/365, then most of us would be considered "unpatriotic and un-American." The President worked 16 hour days, on little sleep, taking no salary.

    I had no problem with his actions towards those that tried to destroy him every waking hour.

    I wonder if Peter Fonda now regrets his filthy verbal statements concerning the President's young son Barron? Or if John McCain regrets dying in unforgiveness toward Trump? His daughter Meghan still hasn't gotten over her bitterness towards him. What an example he left her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I guess it's asking too much to want a conservative man or woman who displays Christian virtues of humility, reverence, and kindness AND is faithful to his or her marriage partner.

    I think at some point Christians who are willing to compromise on these virtues just to have their man or woman in office will live to regret it. When we conservatives compromise on our values just to have someone who agrees with our positions, we're making a tragic mistake. Politics is not the answer anyway. We may elect a super conservative candidate and still continue our downhill plunge. Having a conservative in office will not bring about revival. In fact, the darker the culture, perhaps the closer we are to real revival.
    Yeah and I guess Christians should also be part of secret societies like Skull and Bones ..like the Bushes were and you would have supported the house of Saul over the House of David afterall Saul never committed adultery like David did as far as we know

    Per the underlined then why do you even talk about politics at all and express political preferences .. why not just stay out of political threads and topics if indeed you believe what you have said ?.. IE the notion that political involvement hinders "true revival" whatever that nonsense means

    Its only Trump Hating Type Christians who say things like the above..

    Lastly I am not sure what you mean by conservative values --> conservative values to me at least as defined by the likes of Francis Schaefer means applying the bible to public policy not personal behavior so please for the umpteenth time stop comparing apples and oranges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Me, a Christian socialist??? That's hilarious. That's one more problem with Trumpers...you assign disparaging labels to any conservative who doesn't bow the knee to Trump. Why is it so hard to believe that true Bible-totin', blood washed, born again, red-state wannabe Christians can't support Trump? The emperor has no clothes.
    Chief.. I remember debating you way before Trump ..In fact I recall many of your debates with Catchy .. Truth is Your conservatism was always wishy washy ..

    You always brought that liberal leftist emotionalism to debates and espoused few conservative principles while claiming to be conservative.. never could figure it out but that's what it was

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