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    A Cult of Trump?

    Is There a Cult of Trump?


    All of us have witnessed what is called "Trump Derangement Syndrome," where the media basically loses their mind in attacking President Trump, abandoning all sense of objectivity as they obsessed with attacking him. But is there also a "Cult of Trump," where his followers actually exhibit cultlike behavior? Absolutely.

    How can you tell if you're part of the cult of Trump? These are some telltale signs.

    1) You believe that Trump and Trump alone can be trusted. It's not just that you reject the fake news of the mainstream media. It's not just that you see through the lies of the left. It's that you believe Trump and no one else. If he trashes Jeff Sessions, then Sessions is bad. If he trashes Bill Barr, then Barr is bad. If he trashes SCOTUS, then SCOTUS is bad. If he trashes Mike Pence, then Pence is bad. Trump alone can be trusted.

    2) You tolerate no criticism of Trump. There must be absolute and complete loyalty to him. Any disagreement or questioning is perceived as disloyalty. You are either for him or against him. There is no middle ground.

    3) You will turn on your friends and family members if they do not support Trump. He becomes the dividing line, to the point that if your own pastor does not support him, your pastor becomes suspect. Perhaps he is bought off by the elites? Perhaps he is a secret leftist?

    4) You compromise your standards in order to defend Trump. What used to be reprehensible and even vulgar to you is now justifiable. "We need a fighter, not a sissy," you say. No amount of nastiness or mudslinging or character assassination from Trump will cost him your support.

    5) You have put all your eggs in Trump's basket. As far as political leaders go, he alone can save America. He alone can preserve the free world. He alone can fight for the church and for Israel. Everyone else is tainted or compromised or too-weak or part of the swamp. Only Trump can turn the tide.

    6) You are unable to process information rationally when it has to do with Trump. You are much more likely to believe the most farfetched conspiracy theory than doubt what he says. Even when he says things that are factually and verifiably false, you find a way to support his words. And so, when he says that, "Everyone knows the election was stolen, especially those on the other side," you believe him, even when the reverse is demonstrably true.

    7) When someone tells you that Trump will not be inaugurated on January 20, 2021, you attack the messenger with vitriol and venom. Allow me to give you some examples in response to my January 6, 2021 Facebook post which said, "I say this with love, not anger. Please, face the facts. Trump will NOT be inaugurated on January 20th. The prophecies will NOT come to pass. But God's Word stands firm! Read more in my latest here: The Power of Faith vs. the Danger of Delusion | The Stream Paul asked the Galatians, 'Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?'"

    Some of you responded with posts like these:

    You become our enemy by defending the lies and by riding the fence.... but now YOU know the future, right? I thought you were a debater? You're lack of being able to apply simple logic is quite astounding! Please go back to being an apologist, you're losing credibility moment by moment.

    Brown your a fraud and spawn of Baal

    Shut the hell up. You're in a cult

    Just remember this post when he is. You would have been one of the Jews complaining to Moses when they were backed up to the red sea.

    Trump will be president Period! If you can't see that you are missing the forest for the trees. Honestly I expected more discernment from all of you and if you can't see what is really going on I'm not going to waste the time to explain it, you should have paid attention from the beginning. Just know Biden's inaugural parade and stage were canceled and disassembled this week because everyone in DC knows he'll never be president, except for those too stupid to quit watching the MSM. Why did Kamala not resign from the Senate if she really believes she won. (because of legislative immunity) make sure to watch the president tonight at 9pm on newsmax or right side broadcasting.

    Brown You need to calm down Christians are standing in prayer for what we have been praying for many years to step aside a let it go is insane.

    You seem to be like the sheep going to be slaughtered or the Jews that walk I to bondage and slavery and complain.

    Wow, Dr Brown, I do not see peace with you. You need my prayers. Also, you don't know whom will be inaugurated on the 20th.

    When are our spiritual leaders (Dr Brown) going to take a stand? You know that Biden is Unrighteous. This is cowardly.

    Do us a favor and live stream yourself wearing sackcloth (burlap will work too) and throwing ash on yourself once this is all over and you're confronted with the realization of exactly what spirit you are of right now Dr. Brown.

    For you goats, it ain't over yet. And who anointed you a prophet Dr. Brown?

    PRESIDENT TRUMP STILL MY PRESIDENT...BIDEN WILL NEVER BE A PRESIDENT...HE IS ONLY A PUPPET FOR SATAN

    For those who think this is something I've never addressed before, there's actually a whole chapter devoted to this in my book Evangelicals at the Crossroads: Will We Pass the Trump Test?, dealing with both the Cult of Trump and Trump Derangement Syndrome – and the book, overall, is a pro-Trump book.

    Of course, if you are following Trump in a cult like way, you will be the last to see it. But if you truly love the Lord and look to Him, He will shine His light on your heart and you will see where you put too much trust in a man.

    That's why I write this article, knowing that, in the short term you might despise or reject me but in the long term you will thanks me.

    And that's why Proverbs 28:23 is one of my life-them verses: "Whoever rebukes a person will in the end gain more favor than one who has a flattering tongue."

    In this case, I do not rebuke. But I do make an appeal. Just as I take constructive criticism to heart and say, "Lord, is it true?", I encourage you to do the same.

    Is There a Cult of Trump? | Ask Dr. Brown

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    Cool

    That was pretty good. I'm glad that I past the "Trump cult" test. I was able to answer no, to most of those questions.
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    I have some trouble with #3.

    I have had people unfriend and even block me on FB because I'm a pro-Trump Canadian. I have never unfriended or blocked anyone for supporting Biden or the left.

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    Brown has really been coming down on Trump supporters and prophets lately.

    He did a recent video. Kinda surprised me that he's gone liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    Brown has really been coming down on Trump supporters and prophets lately.

    He did a recent video. Kinda surprised me that he's gone liberal.
    Never really been big on Brown TBH . Always struck me as one of those Ben Sasse types sanctimoniously in love with his own voice.

    This article is full of strawmen i.e. defining a movement by its extremes and then proceeding to tear it down . Truth All political movements will always have rough edges and excesses

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    My comments below are how I have been feeling recently about Dr. Brown not necessarily the OP topic.

    I have mostly agreed and enjoyed Dr. Brown's videos and comments but have been disappointed at his continuous Trump articles on his FB page.
    There comes a time when you should stop but instead he is pushing his point about Trump and his supporters which is causing grief, anger and hurt.

    There are also a couple of other topics where I disagree.

    There is a danger that some of his supporters are doing the same thing in defending him which he dislikes with the pro Trump crowd.

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    Dr. Brown with all due respect to his followers looks at everything through the lens of Zionism, he's more aligned with neo-cons like Bill Kristol politically. So while he can't swap parties like most neo-cons did and openly support democrats, he can certainly knock down a Trump in favor of a Bush or other perpetual war advocate from the Republican party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    Brown has really been coming down on Trump supporters and prophets lately.

    He did a recent video. Kinda surprised me that he's gone liberal.
    He is the furthest thing from being liberal bro. He can read the writing on the wall, just like Daniel did.

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    Trump has suffered more persecution than most Christians in the USA. He not only gets hatred from the left, but also from his own political party and from other Christians going out of their way to prove that they are not part of a "Trump cult".

    Trump is certainly a flawed man, but one would think that having fought for the rights of Christians more than any other political leader, he could be shown support and love without being labeled a cult leader or those who support him as "cult followers."

    I just do not understand people anymore.
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    According to his article, I am NOT in the Trump cult, but I did vote for him twice. I think he did a great job as President, but I think he could have been even better if he was able to focus more on the job he was doing and less worry about what people were saying about him. I think in the end, the tweeting and insults did him in. While I don't believe he was responsible for the "insurrection" at the Capitol, I do think he was guilty of "schadenfreude" towards the event. It was a bad look and will probably prevent him from having a positive impact on future elections. I think our best best is to not focus so much on "Democrat" or "Republican" but our values. This could involve a third or even fourth party in the future. While I think the Republican party more closely aligns with my values, there have been too many times I have had to hold my nose while pushing the lever.

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