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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Yeah, that guy was really good and very thorough. I think my conflict has been resolved for sure.
    Or from Mr Wretched (total cessationist)...


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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Or from Mr Wretched (total cessationist)...

    One of the worst anti-charismatic vitriol spewers out there. Comes across as pure hatred almost.

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    One of the worst anti-charismatic vitriol spewers out there. Comes across as pure hatred almost.
    I watched him once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    I watched him once.
    I can't even force myself to listen to him. When he appeared on the scene I distanced myself a little bit from Ray Comfort's folks because it looked like Todd was one of them. Love The Way of the Master, but certainly wouldn't hang out with the likes of Todd Friel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    You just made my day!!!
    Ohhhh, I see what you did there, Brother!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I can't even force myself to listen to him. When he appeared on the scene I distanced myself a little bit from Ray Comfort's folks because it looked like Todd was one of them. Love The Way of the Master, but certainly wouldn't hang out with the likes of Todd Friel.
    And I only posted that because it was concise. Any other, he creeps me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I can't even force myself to listen to him. When he appeared on the scene I distanced myself a little bit from Ray Comfort's folks because it looked like Todd was one of them. Love The Way of the Master, but certainly wouldn't hang out with the likes of Todd Friel.
    I was kind of disappointed when I saw they were affiliated in some way. It made me wonder if Ray was like him behind the scenes.

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    Is the answer that it is not an either or issue? We want a nice theological box to rest in but the Word is living through the Spirit of God that dwells within. God does not really address self defense per se. So is it possible to love someone who means you harm AND defend yourself? I think so. Self defense is not driven by hate, but often by love, especially in defense of others.

    Why not just encourage personal Spirit led relationship giving HIM room to guide each individual. And with that we have the RIGHT to bear arms...

    We do have that one passage where Jesus says to go and buy a sword. Yes we have no scripture that they did or that they used it...

    I truly believe God was active in our revolution and raised up men to 'protect' the dream when GB determined to not allow it.

    I do not believe we have to choose sides on this matter of self defense or not, but we must embrace the freedom to choose when it comes to bearing arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I am with you on those thoughts. But where is the scripture to back up that stance?
    We are called to save lives- to an eternal hope.

    Would you be willing to kill someone in self defense or in the defense of others if it meant you not inheriting the kingdom of heaven?

    I'm looking for a rock to stand on, and that rock has to be the Word of God for me. Seriously seeking a scriptural answer to stand on before I am ever faced with the question I just asked.

    I have thought about getting a concealed permit for a while because of the way the world is going. But not if it could cost me eternity.

    Can you build a solid scriptural case for this stance?

    When Nicky Cruz told David Wilkerson that he was going to cut him into a thousand pieces with his switchblade, David said something like, "Go ahead, and each of those thousand pieces will still love you." And we all know the outcome of that encounter. A great evangelist was born out if it.

    I would be more likely to pull out my weapon and shoot him.
    But would we be faithful disciples of Jesus if we killed him?
    In God's eyes, would we be considered murderers?

    In my flesh I know that I would want to destroy him for threatening my life or if it were the life of a loved one or innocent bystander. But how is the Spirit man supposed to deal with a situation like this?

    My heart is heavy over this. I want to be a good and faithful servant over all else.
    I have no doubt when DW encountered Niki that he was being led by the Spirit in that event to open a wide door...I also have no doubt that that is not always the case.

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