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    Seattle will move to dismantle 'CHOP' zone after shootings, mayor says

    Seattle will move to end the police-free zone known as the "Capitol Hill Organized Protest," or "CHOP," after two recent shootings, one of which was deadly, Mayor Jenny Durkan announced Monday -- signaling that a stunning chapter in the city's history could be drawing to a close.

    The mayor said the violence was distracting from changes sought by thousands of peaceful protesters seeking to address racial inequity and police brutality. Activists set up "CHOP" in the city's Capitol Hill neighborhood about two weeks ago, barricading off the area after police evacuated a ransacked precinct building there.

    "The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the nighttime atmosphere and violence has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents," Durkan said at a news conference. "The impacts have increased and the safety has decreased."

    City leaders have faced mounting criticism -- including from President Trump -- over the protest zone amid reports of violence inside the area and how police can respond to such incidents. Police had not been able to go inside the zone. The dismantling of the CHOP followed the death of a 19-year-old man in a Saturday shooting in which another person was injured.

    On Sunday, a 17-year-old was shot in the arm on the edge of the area.

    Demonstrators inside CHOP have been mostly peaceful -- handing out free food and playing music -- but a more dangerous atmosphere has become evident at night. Residents and business owners have voiced concerns over safety and access for emergency first responders.

    Volunteer medics inside the zone brought the victims of Saturday's shooting to the hospital rather than wait for the police and fire departments, who were preparing to respond before entering.

    "There should be no place in Seattle that the Seattle Fire Department and the Seattle Police Department can't go," Durkan said.

    The protesters have issued a list of demands including calls to defund the police and for leaders to address other social-justice causes.

    Trump frequently has lashed out at Durkan and Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, both Democrats, over CHOP's existence, saying the zone is being run by "anarchists."

    On Monday, some CHOP members called for changes to the zone over the violence. In an open letter addressed to organizers, a group of 25 activists and volunteers asked leaders to set up a safe use area on the outskirts of the zone, create different signage encouraging intoxicated persons to stay away and implement a curfew to prevent destructive behavior at night.

    "We would like to acknowledge that no organizations, protests, or revolutions are perfect," the group wrote. "We must all be willing to collectively learn and react quickly to mistakes made within our movement. We do not want to see what was started with the intention of lifting the BLM message destroyed before us all."

    Andre Taylor, who founded the anti-police-shooting organization Not This Time!, said Monday he's told CHOP leaders the violence would prompt the city to take back control of the area.

    "If I put myself in the mayor's position, I have to act when violence is around," he said.

    Seattle will move to dismantle '''CHOP''' zone after shootings, mayor says | Fox News

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    You should see her Facebook post. Absolutely bizarre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    You should see her Facebook post. Absolutely bizarre
    Well a link would have been nice. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Well a link would have been nice. :)
    Don't ask for too much!

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    This "zone" sounds like the Occupy Wall Street situation of several years. But the latter was completely non-violent as I recall.

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    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    You should see her Facebook post. Absolutely bizarre
    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Well a link would have been nice. :)
    Read the comments on this post she made:

    Across the City, hundreds of thousands... - Mayor Jenny Durkan | Facebook

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    Thanks for those links. Reading the first, it seems that there were in fact some issues, but
    that a particular newspaper, the NYPost, may have exaggerated the extent of those issues:

    What we found on the ground in Zuccotti paled in comparison to what we read in the papers,
    but to say that there is no danger would be a lie.

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