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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    For $1000 I can make you a Doctor of Theology
    Some people would pay a million dollars for a healing (depending on what of course) but we don't take money for that.

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    According to Cardinal TT there are plenty of Pentecostal sites that have online bible study courses. Assemblies of God probably have.
    Alphacrucis College is "the national training college of the Australian Christian Churches" (formally known as AoG).

    Go to their current Study Online page (AC - Online) and two courses are highlighted, one on 1 & 2 Corinthians and this one.

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    And we can add to that the fact that one of the current ACC state presidents took a thriving Pentecostal Church and deliberately turned it into a Community Organisation where one can hear motivational messages and shed-talks (but not the Gospel).

    If you want to become a Credentialed ACC Minister you have to do some study through Alphacrucis:

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    Here is the required reading list. Note that it's not till you get to the 6th, and last, item on the list that there is anything Biblical. This last one is the ACC Statement of Beliefs.

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    Believe it or not, I might pass on looking to Alphacrucis for Bible Study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Some people would pay a million dollars for a healing (depending on what of course) but we don't take money for that.
    You mightn't .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    You mightn't .....
    This one's pretty clear :

    Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

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    Andrew Wommack ministries has lots of resources, I'm sure you can find something there. For instance :

    CHARIS DAILY Live Bible Study - Andrew Wommack Ministries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Andrew Wommack ministries has lots of resources, I'm sure you can find something there. For instance :

    CHARIS DAILY Live Bible Study - Andrew Wommack Ministries
    Ta muchly.

    Though I'll have to look further, as the following from his AU website aren't immediate draw cards:

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    That's shocking, Andrew Wommack believes in healing and speaking in faith. What is he, some kind of Pentecostal/Charismatic ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    That's shocking, Andrew Wommack believes in healing and speaking in faith. What is he, some kind of Pentecostal/Charismatic ?
    Slightly more that that Colonel:

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    Being a bit ... here, but I looked at the Bible Studies program and you spend as much time being taught to Get Along with People as you are to Study the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Does that mean you disagree when Paul says "v20 On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it? v21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?"

    Do you believe that man (the creature) can tell God (the Creator) what He must do with him?
    Let's have a look at an other passage that discusses that.

    Jer 18:1 The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying:
    2 "Arise and go down to the potter's house, and there I will cause you to hear My words."
    3 Then I went down to the potter's house, and there he was, making something at the wheel.
    4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make.
    5 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
    6 "O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?" says the Lord. "Look, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel!

    It turns out that he himself will mold the marred pottery into pottery that is useful, if certain conditions are met :

    7 The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it,
    8 if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.

    He reiterates in verse 11 :

    11 "Now therefore, speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, 'Thus says the Lord: "Behold, I am fashioning a disaster and devising a plan against you. Return now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good." ' "

    The pottery cannot speak back to the potter for the simple reason that the potter has already declared the only condition that will lead him to change the pottery, which is repentance back to him.

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