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    "Officials say it could take months to unravel the lone suspect's violent path across the province as they continue to probe 16 different crime scenes including five structure fires where police have found human remains..."


    Thats a lot of crime scenes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    "Officials say it could take months to unravel the lone suspect's violent path across the province as they continue to probe 16 different crime scenes including five structure fires where police have found human remains..."


    Thats a lot of crime scenes!
    I know, right? I don't think they've recovered all the remains they believe are in the burned homes. It's a terrible mess and now people are wondering why there were no ALERTS sent out during the 12 hour pursuit.

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    I know, right? I don't think they've recovered all the remains they believe are in the burned homes. It's a terrible mess and now people are wondering why there were no ALERTS sent out during the 12 hour pursuit.
    I was gonna say all the liberals probably want to ban something because of this, but in Canada everything is already banned isn't it? And it still happened anyway. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I was gonna say all the liberals probably want to ban something because of this, but in Canada everything is already banned isn't it? And it still happened anyway. :)
    Liberals somehow think that if all guns are removed from lawabiding citizens then the criminals will "get it" and destroy theirs too. The absence of all logic in that idea is profound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I was gonna say all the liberals probably want to ban something because of this, but in Canada everything is already banned isn't it? And it still happened anyway. :)
    Trudeau is already talking about banning assault weapons... pretty sure he'll push it as far as he can. I don't know if they've said what weapons were used in this shooting spree. The articles may have said but if they did, the info didn't stick with me.

    We have registration laws, but can still own weapons. You need to be a registered owner in order to buy ammo... Rog isn't a hunter, so I don't know all the details... he has a 22 for shooting gophers and pests and my dad's shot gun ... but he's never registered them.

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    Here's a little something on it... JT "admires" the China dictatorship....


    TRUDEAU GIVES CHINA A PASS, THEN TARGETS GUN OWNERS

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau strode to the podium outside his home in Ottawa and said so many soothing words to a country reeling from the tragedy that had unfolded in Nova Scotia the day before. When we needed someone to evoke the feelings many of us were dealing with in the wake of the murderous spree, Trudeau was on point.

    "We stand with you and we grieve with you. And you can count on our government's full support during this incredibly painful time," Trudeau said to the people of Nova Scotia.

    "No one man's action can build a wall between us and a better day, no matter how evil, how thoughtless, or how destructive."

    It would have been fine had the PM left it at that. Instead, he used this tragedy to start talking about his gun-control plans before the RCMP had even confirmed that all the bodies from this massacre had been found.

    It's quite the contrast to his reaction when asked several times last week about the blame China's government should face over its actions and, at times, inactions that led to the spread of the coronavirus and the deaths of nearly 1,600 Canadians and growing.

    "Why is your government so reluctant to acknowledge China's possible faults in this pandemic?" the Globe and Mail's Marieke Walsh asked Trudeau last week as more evidence emerged that China has low-balled the number of people infected and the number of people who died in Wuhan from COVID-19.

    The revision of those numbers came days after it was revealed that China had kept quiet about the fact that it was facing a pandemic. The Chinese government found out on Jan. 14, but didn't publicly disclose that information until Jan. 20. In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of visitors poured into Wuhan for the Lunar New Year celebrations, including many Canadians who brought the virus back with them.

    Yet on Friday, as every time he was asked before, Trudeau refused to say a single word against China or even call it out by name.

    "There will be plenty of time to point fingers, to ask questions, to draw conclusions and to ensure that there are consequences for things that different countries may have done during this pandemic," Trudeau said.

    I wonder what he means by "different countries?" Surely not China, which lied to the world.

    This is part of a pattern with Trudeau. He will claim now is not the time. He will say we can get into finger-pointing and drawing conclusions later if it involves China. He wants it to seem that he is above politics and the petty concerns that go with it when China is involved.

    Yet, when it is a political issue that he is keen to move on, well then, there is no time like the present. Sure, Trudeau gave the obligatory comment about waiting for the right moment before jumping in with his comments.

    "I can say that we were on the verge of introducing legislation to ban assault-style weapons across this country," Trudeau said without even knowing what firearms were used in the spree.

    So, in response to an absolutely senseless and horrific incident in Nova Scotia, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is not only willing to speak out against more than 2 million licenced gun owners, he is willing to act against them and pass legislation or government orders to seize property they legally own that had nothing to do with what happened.


    Yet, when it comes to China unleashing a deadly virus that has killed close to 170,000 people around the world, Trudeau remains silent for where blame lies.

    It makes you question who he really sees as a threat.


    LILLEY: Trudeau gives China a pass, then targets gun owners | Toronto Sun

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I was gonna say all the liberals probably want to ban something because of this, but in Canada everything is already banned isn't it? And it still happened anyway. :)
    Here's a full answer to your question. I just happened upon it on FB ... I don't know where the links lead, I didn't click on them.

    Canada Shooting Exposes The Goal of Gun Control is To Ban Guns
    A few days ago, Canada experienced it's worst mass shooting in history. Right now in Canada, you have to register all handguns and semi-auto rifles. You can't even buy a gun or ammo until you undergo a licensing process that requires training, a personal risk assessment, two references, spousal notification and criminal record checks.
    There is no concealed carry, you can't even keep your guns loaded in your home, not to mention you can only have ten rounds in your handgun and only 5 in your rifle, not to mention, you can't own a gun for the exclusive purpose of self-defense in Canada.
    You can only have it for sport shooting and hunting. Defending your self with your gun is considered an unfortunate by-product of firearm ownership and you will be treated as a criminal if you use your gun in self-defense against a criminal.
    Evil has existed since the dawn of time, it's silly to think that simple words on paper will stop evil from existing, you can't eliminate evil, but you can cut it's head off when it pops up.
    You can't do that if you don't have the tools necessary to combat it, and no free man should be forced to wait empty-handed for another man to come to deal with the evil that's standing right in front of him.
    No country should have to deal with this type of tragedy, which is why I'm so adamant about people exercising their 2nd amendment right to have a fighting chance when these things happen.
    19 people depended on their government to be there and keep them safe and their government was nowhere to be found.
    Not because their government didn't care but because of reality. The government can't be everywhere all the time, which is why the 2nd amendment is so important
    It gives you the power to fight back immediately when evil tries to take away the most precious thing we have in this world. Life.
    My condolences along with yes, my hopes and prayers go out to the families of all the victims and the people of Nova Scotia.
    To the political leaders of Canada, you don't make your country stronger by making your people weaker. You make your country stronger by empowering your people.
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    Nova Scotia shootings began after gunman attacked his girlfriend, sources say
    By Mercedes Stephenson and James Armstrong Global News
    Posted April 23, 2020 1:56 pm
    Updated April 23, 2020 5:57 pm

    The killings that began Saturday night in the rural Nova Scotia community of Portapique and ended the next morning with the death of the gunman at a gas station started with domestic violence when Gabriel Wortman attacked his girlfriend, sources tell Global News.

    Investigators believe Wortman and his girlfriend were at a party at a nearby home in the Portapique area when Wortman began arguing with her. They left the party and sources believe Wortman escalated the argument back at his cottage — assaulting her and tying her up. She escaped and hid in the woods.

    Wortman left his cottage after the assault and investigators believe that's when the shootings started. He returned to the house where the party was being held and killed several people there, sources said.

    Global News has learned that Wortman had access to multiple guns over the course of the rampage — a rifle, a handgun and a shotgun, sources said. Global News does not yet know how he obtained those guns.

    Portapique is a small, rural community on the banks of the Cobequid Bay and the Portapique River and just off Highway 2. RCMP said Wednesday they set up two perimeters in the area but at some point in the evening, learned Wortman had made it past undetected.

    Police found Wortman's girlfriend around 7 a.m. local, sources said. It was from her they learned he was likely dressed as a police officer and driving a fake cruiser. She also provided the picture of the vehicle that was widely distributed. The information changed the way police were searching for Wortman.

    Police first tweeted about Wortman at 9:04 a.m. local time Sunday. Less than an hour later they tweeted again warning he may be driving what "appears to be an RCMP vehicle & may be wearing an RCMP uniform."

    Sources confirmed to Global News that Wortman shot RCMP Const. Heidi Stevenson in the chest before dragging her from her car and shooting her again.

    He stole her handgun, sources say. It's not known whether he used the handgun on any of his victims.

    The RCMP has handed over aspects of the investigation to the Serious Incident Response Team (SiRT), an affiliated body that investigates "all matters that involve death, serious injury, sexual assault and domestic violence or other matters of significant public interest that may have arisen from the actions of any police officer in Nova Scotia," according to its website.

    Police have not yet commented on a possible motive, nor have they said whether the killing was planned.

    A member of the RCMP's Emergency Response Team and an RCMP K9 officer spotted Wortman at a gas station in Enfield, N.S., when they stopped there. Wortman realized the police had spotted him and went for his gun but the highly trained ERT officer shot and killed him before he could fire on police, sources said.

    "The investigation is detailed and complex," the RCMP said in a statement Tuesday. "The investigative team is focused on learning more about this very tragic situation, including accurate victim information and whether others may have aided the suspect."

    The RCMP is investigating 16 scenes throughout the province and, as of Tuesday afternoon, said at least 22 people are dead.

    The RCMP have not said how many of the victims Wortman knew.

    RCMP declined to comment on Global News' story when contacted as the investigation is ongoing.

    Intimate partner violence accounts for one-third of all police-reported violent crimes in Canada, according to Statistics Canada, with over 99,000 victims in 2018. The rate of police-reported intimate partner violence in Canada also increased two per cent from 2017 to 2018, reaching its highest level in Canada since 2012, and was most likely to happen in a private home.


    Nova Scotia shootings began after gunman attacked his girlfriend, sources say | Globalnews.ca

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    Nova Scotia shootings: The RCMP's step-by-step account of what happened
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