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    that level of idiocy gives me a headache.

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    I get tired of the cotton candy false teachings and fluff and stuff candy coated sermons that are being presented as "bible" today.
    You never hear the scriptures that say:

    God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked everyday (Ps 7:11) or,

    The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God (Ps 9:17) or,

    Then He shall say also unto them on the left hand, "Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels (Mt 25:41).
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    God must punish sin, and the penalty is spiritual death if one dies unrepentant in their sin.

    But on the flip side, even though God must judge sin, it's important to remember that:

    God is gracious and merciful, slow to anger and steadfast in love (Ps 145:8).

    God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live (Ezk 33:11).

    For He is patient toward you, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Pet 3:9).

    We are living in a time of counterfeit Christianity and delusional teaching.

    God does not change in spite of those who attempt to try and change God's character and what He say's in His word.
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Something I read recently and is being promoted by some believers who reject hell
    Basically they say...according to mainstream Christianity God expects us to forgive but why doesn't he forgive those who don't believe in him

    They then accuse the mainstream/conservative/evangelicals of making up a God that contradicts himself therefore is a hypocrite

    Since God is love and not a hypocrite he must then totally forgive everyone regardless of what they believe.

    Hence their version of God is compatible with his character and the mainstream version is false.

    I hope I've explained that clearly


    How would you respond to their argument?
    Ezekiel 33 eluded to this as well, but here's something obvious:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharrei Tzion View Post
    I would question if they are genuine believers who are saying this.
    So would not a valid response be the Gospel which says (in part) that:


    • We are all sinners
    • Separated from God
    • Under His wrath
    • Children of the devil
    • Destined for a deserved eternity in hell.
    • But because of His love
    • God sent His Son Jesus
    • To be crucified on a cross
    • Taking on himself our sin
    • And suffering God's wrath for that sin
    • Thereby removing the barrier between God and man.
    • Now, by God's grace through faith
    • Those who repent and believe1
    • Are forgiven
    • Have their sin washed away
    • Are born again
    • Become Children of God and
    • Heirs to the Kingdom of heaven.


    If one has believed the gospel then this is what one has believed. The Apostle Paul says in 1Cor 1:18 that "the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." If anyone calms they believe but then says that there is no hell and/or that God is in some way a hypocrite, doesn't that suggest that they are fools who are perishing?

    ...FFO

    1. Obviously not necessarily from Day #1, but believing includes:


    1. Believing that Jesus was pierced for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities;
    2. Believing that the punishment that He endured is what makes peace with God possible;
    3. Believing that the wounds He suffered were the price He paid to free His people from sin's bondage and heal them spiritually;
    4. Believing that God caused our iniquity to fall on Jesus;
    5. Believing that Jesus was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for our transgressions;
    6. Believing that He gave his life as a guilt offering for our sins; and
    7. Believing that by bearing our sins He earned our righteousness. (See Is 53:5-12)


    It seems to me that it would be difficult to believe these things yet not believe in hell or to call God a hypocrite.

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